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Ep8: Minisode: Do You Believe in Reincarnation?
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Join Amy and Dawn as they sit down with Amy’s husband, Shannon, for a chat about reincarnation. Are we really coming back as cats, or are we just stuck in a cosmic traffic jam? Tune in to hear their thoughts on whether we’re all secretly living multiple lives—or just making it up as we go along.
1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,680 [Music] 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:19,680 Hello and welcome to our podcast Talk Gruesome To Me, where we talk about movies and shows that cover true crime, paranormal and horror. 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:27,920 I am one of your hosts, Dawn. I am currently located in Los Angeles and I think I'm pretty well versed in the horror genre, 4 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:35,360 especially those 80s classics. A quick fun fact about me? I have a very extensive crystal collection. 5 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:43,920 Hello, I'm Amy. I'm from Kentucky and my area of expertise for this podcast is paranormal. A few fun facts about me. 6 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:50,240 I'm an empath, I collect old dolls and you know, I've never flown on an airplane. Can you believe that? 7 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:56,960 Now Dawn and I are also obsessed with true crime, so here we are. Talk Gruesome To Me. 8 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:03,120 On this episode we're talking about reincarnation. We have a page called The Paranormal Couple because 9 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:09,120 that's what we are, The Paranormal Couple and we do investigations. Now we posted a post about 10 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:17,520 reincarnation and we had 25 total responses. 19 said that yes, they do believe in reincarnation. 11 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:24,880 Three said no and then we had three undecided. Now what we're going to do is we're going to read some of their, 12 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:30,400 it's not necessarily things that have happened to them, but their opinions and what they believe in. 13 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,640 And we're going to go ahead and start with Dawn. 14 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:40,400 All right, Wendy said, I believe I have been here before. But there are extraordinary stories of 15 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:48,560 children having talents like musical, artistic, academic abilities that they had never had any training. 16 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,480 So I believe that they were experts in these fields in another life. 17 00:01:52,480 --> 00:02:01,120 I'm going to tell you the children's stories are the ones that do get me thinking because some of 18 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:07,920 the stuff they don't know. So yeah, okay, that was a good one. It was. And I am going to read from 19 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:15,840 Brooke. Now Brooke said, haven't met both mom, dad and my kid yet. There's something like reincarnation 20 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:22,000 out there. He's never been spooky about it. They're just so incredibly alike and have the same vibe. 21 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:32,000 That one, Brooke, she's basically saying that her son and her dad I think are so similar that 22 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:38,640 she thinks there's something there. I mean, like she said, she knew both her father and she knows her 23 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:45,280 kid. So yeah, she could definitely pick up on something like that. Yep. And then I think this is 24 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:52,400 Pazazz, P-A-S-A-Z paranormal out of the UK. They said, and I don't know if it's a she or he. So 25 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:59,760 they said, the lady who reads my cards said that I had a past life and connected to a French castle. 26 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:06,800 And maybe that's why I am so obsessed with castles. Interesting. Okay, yeah. Okay, now I'm going to read 27 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:13,840 what Chris said. I do believe in it, but not the wildly accepted definition of it. Bit of a lengthy 28 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:19,200 explanation to give you in a comment thread, but the shortest version I can give is that remembering a 29 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:25,840 past life is actually a glitch that shouldn't happen. I don't actually believe in souls. I believe 30 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:32,960 in that what people call a soul is from a sentient energy that records a life and is supposed to take 31 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:39,120 that recording somewhere else. But occasionally for whatever reason, something goes wrong and it 32 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:45,280 doesn't. It either gets stuck outside of a vessel or it jumps to another vessel without uploading 33 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:52,160 the memory of its previous first life. And they were talking about vessel as in ghost. I was born 34 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:58,320 a psychic medium, but I'm also an atheist. I don't believe in the spiritual, but I do believe in the 35 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:06,240 law of the conservation of energy. That one was very thought out and deep. Yeah, I mean, I do believe 36 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:14,320 that person could go way further into this conversation. For sure. And actually when I had reached out, 37 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Chris said that if we had any questions or wanted to go into it any further that that is something 38 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:28,320 that they'd be willing to talk about. Gotcha. All right, Margaret. So Margaret said, 39 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:35,200 "I get the feeling that the gaps the respite in heaven are shorter than they were at one time. 40 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:42,800 With my two daughters, we remember being sisters probably in the early 20th century. We were long 41 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:50,160 clothes, rode a horse and carriage. And I believe that we were quite well off. I was born in 1940 42 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:56,560 in this present time. But I recollect being burned at the stake in another life. Very poor. 43 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:03,520 Had a lot of rats running around the street, which I feel was London. I also recollect being a monk 44 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:11,120 on the Isle of, I think it's Iona, a nun in a French nunnery. Part of my work there was attending to 45 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:16,560 the gardens. I'm returning to Scotland in the autumn later this year. This will be my last time. 46 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:22,320 I believe I shall have completed that part of the jigsaw you might say. Love & blessings to all." 47 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:28,080 Oh, loving blessings to you as well, Margaret. Okay, that's definitely a lot of information. 48 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:35,600 Okay, last one I'm going to read is from Laura. And Laura says, "I totally believe. I don't know how 49 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:41,520 many times I've been here before, but sometimes I'll be somewhere I've never been. And I am either very 50 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:49,280 happy or very sad." So she's pretty much saying that places make her have fillings. And also now that we 51 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:55,280 have read the opinions off the Facebook, we are going to go ahead and give our opinions. And tonight, 52 00:05:55,280 --> 00:06:00,960 I have got my husband Shannon with us. So he's going to give his opinion as well. And I think maybe we 53 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:07,360 kind of have a different set of opinions, don't we? I'm pretty sure that we do. My name is Shannon. 54 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:15,440 I'm Amy's husband. I'm 50% of The Paranormal Couple. I do believe in reincarnation 100%. 55 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:23,440 I do believe that I've been here before. And I do believe that it is very possible considering all 56 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:30,960 the cases that I've read about and heard of in the past 20 years of looking into it. There have been 57 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:39,040 multiple situations, different cases across the world, where children have led people to murder weapons 58 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:45,360 that they're murdered to, explain about what life they lived before the present life that they're 59 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:51,840 currently in, details like what their mothers looked like, what their brothers name was, where they 60 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:58,320 lived at, what it looked like. There's, I mean, there's way too much evidence, in my opinion, to dismiss 61 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:06,320 it as just being silly. I mean, it's an actual thing that needs to be looked into seriously because 62 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:14,960 I do 100% believe that it is possible. All right, Amy, you're up. I'm not sure what I believe, 63 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:22,720 but I will tell you the things that he is saying is what makes me kind of feel that way. Like, 64 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:29,440 I want to say no, but then how do you explain this other stuff? I feel the same. I know, and a lot 65 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:34,640 of the belief has to do with religion as well. Let's not forget about that because when you're dealing 66 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:40,480 with reincarnation, you have to deal with religion too, especially when you're talking to other people 67 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:46,960 about it. Of course, Christianity does not believe in reincarnation. There is no supporting evidence 68 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:53,840 biblically that supports reincarnation. As a matter of fact, Jesus in the book of Luke, 69 00:07:53,840 --> 00:08:00,960 when he told the parable of the rich man in Lazarus, he pretty much said, himself, that there is no 70 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:10,080 coming back that after this life there is judgment. And that's what a big, huge percentage of people 71 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:18,720 who are in religion that are not Buddhist, Tibetan or Hindu or anything like that that usually has 72 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:24,400 a lot of emphasis on the reincarnation if the Christian community does not really believe in it. 73 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:31,440 I mean, there are some that do believe in reincarnation, but the reason that they really don't 74 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:37,760 is because of their faith. And, you know, it, like I said in the book of Luke, where he said, 75 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:44,640 there is no coming back basically that after this it's, it's your judgment and, you know, that's the 76 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:51,920 end of it. So there were Christians before in the early stages of Christianity who did believe in 77 00:08:51,920 --> 00:09:00,080 reincarnation, but at some point along the way the church made a heresy pretty much to even bring 78 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:06,560 it up or discuss it because of the word of Jesus Christ in the book of Luke. So I have some questions, 79 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:13,120 and I'm guessing these are going to be more for Shannon since Amy's kind of feeling the same as myself. 80 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:20,240 And I mean, if you have an opinion on these, obviously you can answer as well, but I don't know, 81 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:27,040 they feel probably more geared towards him. Okay, do you always think you're reincarnated if you're 82 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:34,320 human into a human? No, no, I do not. And do you think animals are reincarnated? I think animals could 83 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:41,680 have possibly been humans in their past life. That's scary. It depends if I think what the main 84 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:50,320 decider is on this, what you come back as is karma. That is your main thing. If you live a life that 85 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:56,640 is not good and all you do is care about yourself and do not have compassion for other people around you 86 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:02,720 and try to help people when you can, basically just have a good heart, then you could probably come 87 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:09,600 back as a human, but your life's not going to be that easy. It's going to be very difficult. Or you 88 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:16,000 could come back as an animal who's not loved, who's treated like crap all the time. There's no telling. 89 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:22,080 You could come back as a tree. It's awful. I don't make, you know, I don't make the decision on that. 90 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,880 Every living being, every sentient living being makes that decision throughout their life. 91 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:33,760 When you finally take your last breath, whatever you did during your life is going to give you 92 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:41,200 what you get in your next life. I believe that we're eternal, our souls are eternal. And what we're 93 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:47,920 in right now is basically a school. We are here to learn. And when we don't learn, we're not supposed 94 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:54,560 to learn. We come back and sometimes it's not as easy as it was when we were here. So you don't think, 95 00:10:54,560 --> 00:11:01,680 it sounds like you don't think we choose our next life. No, I do not. You choose in a way, but it's not 96 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:08,480 as like, okay, I'm getting ready to die. I think I want to come back as a king of some kingdom. 97 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,520 That's not, you've already made that decision while you were living your life. All the things that 98 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:20,720 you've done, you set your own path in place. So whatever you've done, you reap what you sow. 99 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,960 And then what do you think happens between your lives? Like, where's your soul? Like, what happened? 100 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:33,120 Well, there's a lot of different beliefs on that, especially. I think the Buddhist belief in that 101 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:43,200 is there's a 49-day period of morning. Every time they have a monk die. And then somewhere within 102 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:51,120 that 49 days, up to seven weeks, the reincarnation takes effect. And that individual either comes back 103 00:11:51,120 --> 00:12:01,200 as a human, a sentient being that's not really human or could be an animal, a tree, plant, whatever. 104 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:06,640 Because all of that energy, all the energy that's here right now has always been here. There's no 105 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:14,960 new energy. So it has to go somewhere when you pass away that energy goes elsewhere. And I do believe 106 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:21,760 that a lot of them come back. There are some who do not come back. I mean, like in the Buddhist sense, 107 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:28,720 they call it Nirvana. When you reach that certain point where you don't have to come back here anymore 108 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:35,120 because you fully understand what life really is. So there's no more learning on this plane. 109 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:44,160 You progress into another existence. So I think this is a constant cycle of existence. Just like the 110 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:52,240 cycles of the solar system, the cycles of the calendars, the cycles of the seasons on this plane 111 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:59,040 that we live in. There's always a constant shift, always a constant passing and rebirth. And I don't 112 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:05,120 think our souls are any different. Wait, so if you come back as a tree then, would that be your last 113 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:10,160 thing because trees live forever? Well, I mean, you may come back as a tree until, you know, 114 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,520 you get made into paper. Whatever decides you need to move on to something else. Maybe you come 115 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:21,760 back for a tree in one, you know, lifespan. And then after that, you can come back as a human again. 116 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:28,000 I'm not the one who makes the decision on that. I'm just saying, who knows? I mean, anything's possible. 117 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,400 I don't want to be a tree. Well, be good. Be good. I'm trying to be good. 118 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:40,080 I then be good. Although then maybe you could turn into an elemental and you could like scare people. 119 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:47,120 That's kind of fun. Can I be a weeping willow? I guess you could be. They're pretty. They are. I love those. 120 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:55,520 I do too. That I or a Spanish moss, basically. Yeah. And I do like my sycamore too. Yeah. 121 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:01,040 Yeah, but I still don't want to be that. My belief though is just, it's so different because 122 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:08,320 I'm not based in religion. You know, I'm agnostic this. So I do believe in God, but I don't have a set 123 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:13,360 of rules that I have to follow like everybody else does. It seems like that's what I like to call it. 124 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:19,280 Because you know, they have they do have faith in what they believe in and they follow the word. 125 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:26,960 And that's great. But for instance, my opinion when Jesus said there is no other way to him, 126 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:36,640 except through me, I believe that he was saying to live like he did to help people to, you know, 127 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:43,600 be compassionate to sacrifice yourself for people. And he done all of that. And I think that sometimes 128 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,720 when you're reading the Bible, you have to read between the lines. There's a lot of things that are 129 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:55,120 missing. Do you think that hypnosis or meditation or something? Do you think you can 130 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:00,560 tap into that? Yes. There are people that do pass life regression. Even I was listening to 131 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,960 who's the rapper from LA, Kendrick Lamar, and he had he had a song about reincarnation on his 132 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:12,320 new album. And I was listening to some of the things that he went through in his past life reggression. 133 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:19,280 But yes, there are people that actually do that and find out who they were before. And I mean, 134 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:24,000 it's amazing to think about. I don't have any more questions. That was all I wrote down. 135 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:31,200 Okay. I would like to try some past life aggression to see if I could come up with 136 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:38,640 something. He said regression. Yeah, it's past life regression. Past life regression. That's what I'd 137 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:48,480 like to draw. And you said sentiment while going at sentience. Oh, well. It's okay. I'm awful at reading. 138 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:55,200 I'm better when I have to decide on my own what I'm saying instead of reading somebody else's. 139 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:03,600 So sorry, Chris. It's okay. I knew what you meant. I wanted to do some past life aggression. 140 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:10,320 Yeah, Amy's the nicest person, but she's going to do aggression, past life regression. 141 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:17,440 Maybe I was mean. I don't know. Maybe you were. I mean, you got to leave that in. I was for sure. 142 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:24,240 It's part of it, you know, totally. He always calls me out too. I know for certain, I think I'll be back 143 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:30,000 because I probably could have done more in this life. And I realize that the older you get, the more you 144 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:36,320 think about it, and you're like, I wasted so much time doing things that that were selfish, you know, 145 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:42,560 just strictly out of indulging in pleasure and other things like that that, you know, doesn't really 146 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:48,960 matter in the long scheme of things. And I don't have a doubt that I'll be back because I know I could 147 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:56,160 have done better without a doubt. But isn't that scary to you to think about? No, it's not scary to 148 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:01,280 me to think about because everybody else I believe in it too. I'm not in this alone. You guys are 149 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:08,000 coming with me. You think we'll meet up again? Yes, I do believe that you're reincarnated around 150 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:13,680 some of the same people a lot. I do believe that. I think a lot of people believe that part. 151 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:22,320 I, after my dad passed, we kept for like, I don't know, six months or something. We kept seeing frogs 152 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:30,480 everywhere. I really hope my dad wasn't a frog. I don't want that. The tadpoles are so cute. 153 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:38,960 Oh my gosh. Yes, remember when you had tadpoles? Yes. tadpoles and tad talk, is that what it was? No, 154 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:46,400 tadpoles talk. tadpole talk. I thought you called it tad talk or something. No, you were so, he was so 155 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:52,560 mad at me having to save them. He was having to wait and stop because I was saving him. Amy saved 156 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:58,480 thousands and I'm not kidding thousands of tadpoles in their pool. Remember when I called you from 157 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:09,760 outside and it was, I loved it. It was great. That see Amy has no aggression. I'm saving tadpoles. 158 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:17,280 No aggression until our past life. I'm gonna go back into it. Yeah. So this one was just a 159 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:23,360 fast little minisode. We wanted to get users involved and, not users. We wanted to get 160 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:30,160 followers involved and we thought this was a fun start to that and we got Shannon involved. 161 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:36,640 I'm happy about that. It was a pleasure to be here with you too. It really was. No, he might need 162 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:44,000 his own mic if we're gonna do this again. Yeah, it worked out. We're good. But yeah, that's it. We just 163 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:50,960 had a quick one. I wanted to talk about reincarnation and Amy and I are kind of on the same page so there 164 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:58,880 wasn't a lot of input. No, I don't know. And also how many episodes are we in now, with 165 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:06,080 full episodes and minis? 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Everything she said. 173 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:54,000 All right. Well, thanks everyone. We'll talk to you next time. We'll meet here again. 174 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:59,920 What's that end? Yeah, we're going to meet back here. That's the ending. We'll meet here again. 175 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:03,680 Meet us back here, guys. Bye. Bye. 176 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,880 Thanks for making it to the end and hanging out with us. Keep on the lookout for our next episode and 177 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,880 stay gruesome.