1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,680 [Music] 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:19,680 Hello and welcome to our podcast Talk Gruesome to me, where we talk about movies and shows that cover true crime, paranormal and horror. 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:27,920 I am one of your hosts, Dawn. I am currently located in Los Angeles and I think I'm pretty well versed in the horror genre, 4 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:35,360 especially those 80s classics. A quick fun fact about me? I have a very extensive crystal collection. 5 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:43,920 Hello, I'm Amy. I'm from Kentucky and my area of expertise for this podcast is paranormal. A few fun facts about me. 6 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:50,240 I'm an empath, I collect old dolls and you know, I've never flown on an airplane. Can you believe that? 7 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:55,920 Now Dawn and I are also obsessed with true crime, so here we are. Talk Gruesome to me. 8 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:05,680 Hello and welcome to the last of our three part series on Nightmare on Elm Street. 9 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:16,400 This time we are talking the horror portion, so what we're going to do is talk about the original 1984, 10 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:25,360 the remake, which was 2010, and then I also watched a making of the original Nightmare on Elm Street. 11 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:35,520 And as always, these are just our opinions. We're going to have some, maybe some interesting ratings here at the end. 12 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:41,040 And I'm guessing we're going to rate both the original and the 2010. 13 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:49,520 Yes, most definitely, 0 to 10. Sorry about that. If you're watching YouTube, I just disappeared. 14 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:56,240 I accidentally unplugged my ring lights, so I went black while Dawn was doing the introduction. 15 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,520 You're good. Hi, I'm Amy. 16 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:11,520 You are good. And I think from a previous episode that we did, I believe that Nightmare on Elm Street 17 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:18,640 was probably my first horror movie. And I think it was yours also. Yes, it took me right back 18 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:23,120 today, sitting on that couch just like mom was right beside me watching it from when I was a little girl. 19 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:32,960 Oh, it's just so good. It's such a classic. I am just going to say it. It can't be replicated. 20 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:41,040 When they do, I don't enjoy it as well. Now I was able to find that Nightmare on Elm Street, Elm Street, 21 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:47,360 plus the Nightmare on Elm Street, two little collectors edition for $5 in the $5 Walmart bin. 22 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:52,640 So I'm super excited to sit down with Shannon, rewatch the Nightmare on Elm Street, plus part 2 together. 23 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:58,320 That was a score. Oh, I'm going back to dig through that bin. You better believe it. 24 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:04,560 So if anyone's near Walmart and you want to rewatch or watch it even for the first time, 25 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:10,400 oh my gosh, if you've never seen this movie, you have to watch it. And there's just something 26 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:19,600 special and different about the classics that were done in the '70s and '80s. It's just not the same now. 27 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:26,880 Those movies, they just scared the shit out of you and they didn't have all the CGI, the computer 28 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:35,040 graphics. It was just scary. Now it was a little bloody. You know, when I'm sitting there thinking, 29 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,240 okay, I was a little bitty watching that, but I begged mom, you don't get mad at mom. But I'm like, 30 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:47,360 I didn't even notice that at the time. Did you? Probably not. I mean, I don't even remember if I 31 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:54,480 had bad dreams after I watched it or anything. All I know is I love horror. It didn't scar me for life. 32 00:03:54,480 --> 00:04:02,480 So. And here we are. Yeah. I can't even say don't let your kids watch it because I watched it. 33 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:11,600 You watched it. My sister's watched it and we're all okay. I think my suggestion is you just have 34 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:19,440 to base it off of each child. Like Hayden, he's been watching scary and horror movies since he was 35 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:28,000 little bitty. He'd rather watch that sometimes than a cartoon. But he also had the understanding. It's 36 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,560 not real. It's just a movie. I don't know. We didn't have any issues like that with him whatsoever. 37 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:40,000 No nightmares or anything. Well, I grew up in the time when and probably you as well. Parents 38 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:47,200 were just hands off. You just watched what you wanted. You left in the morning. And you stayed all day 39 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:52,960 long outside and then you come home for dinner. You got your shower and you were in for the night. 40 00:04:52,960 --> 00:05:00,560 Watching Nightmare on Elm Street. It's the way it was. But you know what? I am thankful that I grew up 41 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:09,200 that way instead of how kids grow up today. Oh, agree. Are included. Like I'm thankful that I had 42 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:16,400 that experience. I agree. I wouldn't want to be a kid right now. This world is crazy. But whatever, 43 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:21,920 that movie was bloody, that's something you don't want your kids to see then don't let them see it, 44 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:28,400 because Amy is right. There's a lot of blood in the first one. And the cool thing is and I highly 45 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:35,120 recommend you can watch the Making of on YouTube. I watched, it was almost an hour and it's really good. 46 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:40,640 It was made by New Line, they're the studio that put the first movie out. And they talked about 47 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:46,720 some of the blood and how gory it was and the MPAA made them cut a couple of scenes that they were 48 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:53,520 so bummed about because it was too much. I'd really like to kept them in there. I wonder your 49 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:59,600 disc might have cut scenes or alternate takes or something. I'm gonna have to look at that and see 50 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:04,240 if it does. Because I know I told you I was like, I want to rewatch it. It might have it in the special 51 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:12,320 features. You'll have to look that movie. So good. The cast, the acting, Wes Craven is a genius, 52 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:19,280 the director, everything about it. And they had a lot of difficulty getting the movie made because 53 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:26,400 back then really there weren't a lot of horror movies out. It was Halloween, Friday the 13th, 54 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:35,040 then Texas Chainsaw like that's it. So, it took a lot to get the studio to back this movie. 55 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:40,880 They did it with a budget of a million dollars which back then sure was a decent chunk. That's 56 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:47,920 still a very low budget. Yeah, imagine having a million now. You couldn't do anything. Yeah, it's not. 57 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:53,520 Yeah, you think like too, it sounds like a lot of money to me, but it wouldn't be much of a movie 58 00:06:53,520 --> 00:07:00,400 when you go to get into it. Yeah, I love I know I've talked about James Wan in the past, but I love 59 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:09,040 Wes Craven as well. I will watch anything that he did. Everything about that movie for me is perfection. 60 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:17,360 What was your favorite scene? You know, oh gosh. I have to think it would either be. Okay. 61 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,680 I was going to say it would either be the bathtub scene just because of the suspense and the 62 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:30,080 craziness of it or the scene where Tina is rolling around on the ceiling. Now that I'm talking through 63 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:36,560 this, watching the Making of and seeing how they shot that, I'm going to go with that being my 64 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:44,320 favorite scene just from a little insider perspective. Or Tina was up on the ceiling. She was all bloody. 65 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:50,400 Yeah, that's drug across that is yeah, that's really real. That's awful. I don't know. I really 66 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:56,160 liked when they were leaving in the end and mom's all smiling and happy and then they get into the car 67 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:01,280 and it starts the top goes up and you see it's the Freddy Krueger stripes. I really liked that 68 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:08,400 and then they just drove off. I liked that. So they covered this in the Making of as well and there were 69 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:15,760 different opinions of how they should end the movie. Obviously that one made it in but they do cover 70 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:22,560 a couple of other takes that they had possibly. I think they actually shot some of them and then 71 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:30,080 that one won out but they showed a funny the clip of the mom going through the door and it's like a 72 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:38,720 blow up doll or something. It was funny. That is funny. Well, I do I like the ending and you think 73 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:44,320 everything's all great. Mom's standing there. You know, she said she was going to go back and this 74 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:50,480 was not real and everyone was alive. So then you wake up and there's mom. Hey, you know, everything's 75 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:57,840 great. We're heading to school and bam. You're like darn it. I like that. I know but it made you think, 76 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:04,320 was the whole movie a dream? Like what? It just made you think number one that there would probably be 77 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:11,920 a part two. Yes. Number two. What the heck? Now what's real? What is it? When were they awake and 78 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:18,160 when were they asleep? Yes. I agree. 100%. I don't know. I just really did. I liked in the basement 79 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:23,040 and where she was. Well, I guess it was close to the end pretty much where she was down there and 80 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:28,560 she was putting him on fire and then when they go back up in there, yeah, like that. Her dad bust in. 81 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:37,600 They said in the Making of that the boiler room was filmed at a jail here. So that's cool. And then 82 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:44,320 Nancy's house is actually really close to us. I drive by that house all the time. That's awesome. 83 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:53,040 I know it was. But someone bought it recently. I don't know two years ago maybe. And he's really 84 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:58,400 mean to people who are there taking pictures and stuff. And I'm like, why would you buy a house 85 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:05,200 that you know people are stopping at all day every day, including tour vans? Right. I mean, I get you 86 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:10,880 want your privacy. But if they're just taking a drive, they're up on your lawn. Yeah. Okay. But if 87 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:17,280 they're just taking a picture, I'd be kind of proud I live there. I would too. They're not on the 88 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:23,680 lawn. There's a fence. Yeah. They're on the sidewalk and he'll come out and yell at them. I've seen 89 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:30,800 videos. Don't buy a famous house if you don't want tourists, because you know they're going to be there. 90 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:36,560 Especially a house that famous. Yeah. Yeah. Most definitely. That was, you should have been a no 91 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:43,360 brainer. But yeah, I do like when she's down. I mean, she's given Freddy the what for. I like that. 92 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:49,600 Bless her little heart. I did. I did. She was down there tearing it up. Wasn't she? She was. 93 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:56,720 And then you got to admit, it was a pretty epic scene when her and her dad went up into the bedroom 94 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:02,320 and the mom is just like melted into the bed. That was wild. There are a lot of wild things. And even 95 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:08,560 for the time because they didn't have computer graphics back then. And so they had to be really 96 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:16,160 imaginative. And I guess maybe that's also partly why I love older horror because it was just harder 97 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:23,200 to achieve. It wasn’t, I don't know just the jump scares are different now. The jump scares now are 98 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:32,720 just big loud bangs. Whereas back then it was anticipation. Mm hmm. Yeah. I agree with you on that. 99 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,200 Yeah, really. And you didn't know which way it was coming with this movie. So I you didn't know 100 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,880 what was a dream like you said or what was real life. And yeah, I liked it. Well, and that's one of 101 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:50,240 the difference with these two that I noticed was in the original you didn't know is this a dream? 102 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:57,440 Are they like did they fall asleep, or is this really happening? Whereas in the remake the 2010 103 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:03,120 remake, you always knew they fell asleep, which I thought was weird. Oh, you could definitely tell 104 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:09,120 the difference each time the scene would change. Yeah. Yeah, there was no blurred reality. You always 105 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:15,920 knew, oh okay, it's a dream. And on that one the part that got me was in the swimming pool. 106 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:22,960 Would you fall asleep swimming? Let's get back to that because I have so much to say. Let's 107 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:33,840 just finish the first one because that is I, I can't. Same question though. But so the first one 108 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:42,880 I loved the cast genuinely seems cool Heather Langen camp, who played Nancy. She still goes and does 109 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:49,440 these trade shows and stuff and everyone always says she's just the nicest person. She just loved 110 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:57,120 that role and she has loved it all these years. I mean, it's been a long time. All of them in the 111 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:04,880 movie you could tell they were all best friends. You know, it just it was just a different vibe and a 112 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:14,240 different cast and the acting like I said was really good. I really don't have anything bad to say 113 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:19,920 about the original. I remember thinking when I was a little girl how beautiful Heather was. 114 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:28,480 I did, I thought she was so pretty. I agree. So cute. And then you have Johnny Depp and I you know 115 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:34,640 some of these people I don't know if they've really been in anything else besides I mean John 116 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:42,320 Saxon who played the cop. I think he was Nancy's dad right. Yes. He has been in a ton of stuff. Tina 117 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:48,080 and I don't know how to say her last name Amanda Wyss or Amanda Wyss. It's W-Y-S-S. I don't know if 118 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:55,360 she's been in other things but she was great. I mean the guy who played Rod, Nancy's mom. Ronnie 119 00:13:55,360 --> 00:14:01,440 Blakely she was great. Like I really don’t, I have nothing bad to say. I don't know what any of them 120 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:07,600 went on to do. I think the moms look similar though. Don't you think the moms look similar between the 121 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:14,720 both of them? Yeah. Connie Britton. Yeah, they did. I thought they did. They both had reddish hair. Yeah. 122 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:23,280 Yeah. Like the orangish glow to it. Yeah. I got to play this for you. Okay. So this is totally 123 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:31,680 ridiculous and this is more for people to see on YouTube. Look at my motion detector for paranormal 124 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:37,280 investigation. I remember it. Yes. I have this device for paranormal investigating. It's a motion 125 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:43,600 detector. So if something walks in front of it it plays music, like a music box sort of. It's 3D 126 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,400 printed and it has Freddy on it and I'm gonna play it. It does'nt. I don't know if it's broken. 127 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:54,400 It only plays the first few notes,then we could talk about the music. It doesn't do the whole song though. 128 00:14:54,400 --> 00:15:08,080 Okay. No. I think it's broken. It was doing the song. Oh it says one two. 129 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:15,280 Anyways. So it's a really cool device. You can pick, I had it. I got it on eBay and you can pick 130 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:21,760 whichever they have Michael Myers and it plays that theme song. But I picked this one and I love it. 131 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:27,840 But that song, the one two Freddy is coming for you. How iconic is that? I mean anyone that 132 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:33,600 hears that knows what it is. I love it. I remember you used it at Bell Mansion. I did. I don’t remember. 133 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:40,960 But yeah I love this thing. It was me. You. Was it Gavin? Oh probably. Yeah. I think it was and you had it out. 134 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:49,680 The song, the sweater, the knife hand. I just think when you have a movie where so many things you just 135 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:56,720 see it or hear it for a second you know what it is. Mm-hmm. That says everything about the movie. 136 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:04,400 And let's also talk about original Freddy Krueger. Look. Oh Robert England. I love him. That's just 137 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:12,560 who we grew up with. Listen. Remakes are always sketchy, and it's hard when you have such an iconic 138 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:22,960 face and a character to redo that. I didn’t, I didn't love it, but you know he’s, I just like the look 139 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:28,800 of the first special effect makeup. He almost looked like George that lives down the block. 140 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:39,680 It wasn't as like scary. Yeah. Yeah. And it was weird because part of the face was detached. Like, 141 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:45,920 you could see like tendons and stuff. I don’t, it just seemed weird. Why is that necessary? Yeah. 142 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:52,800 I like the big hole right there. Yeah. The original burned face was perfect and it was plenty 143 00:16:52,800 --> 00:17:00,720 and it's so visually recognizable. I don't know, unless maybe they couldn't use the same face. 144 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:07,040 Maybe. Yeah. That's a possibility. So I'm not going to hold that against you. Maybe, but 145 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:13,360 it's the same studio right? I think, actually I don't know. Was it? I don't know. I don't know either. 146 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:19,120 Yeah. I would have to look that up. For the first one, watch it. Let your kids watch it if you're 147 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:27,040 okay with blood. Watch the Making of all of it. Like everything, I have no complaints. Nothing bad to 148 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:34,640 say. Yeah, Okay, So let me think, if there's anything else from the Making of. Oh, I know. When I 149 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:40,720 talked about the room that Tina was in for her scene where she was on the bloody ceiling, it was 150 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:50,080 this huge cube that they built that rotates. It's cool to know she was genuinely terrified being 151 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:58,880 in there of possibly getting hurt. I'm sure. Some of that was true screaming. I don't know. I just 152 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:07,040 thought the cube idea was genius for the time because they had to do it physically, and they also 153 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:13,200 used that for the scene where the blood comes out of the bed to the ceiling. They filmed it upside 154 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:20,000 down so the blood actually drops. That's a one take. If you mess that up. I love it. Done. It looks 155 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:26,720 like she's just melting down in there with blood. Yes. Love it. It's perfect. So, their one take worked 156 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:32,880 and they got lucky. Amazing, and you've already said enough when you was talking about her being in 157 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:41,280 the box and how she was scared of being hurt. Back then there was a huge difference in the way they 158 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:47,280 did their scenes and and all of their stunts. They could have seriously gotten hurt, and you'll hear 159 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:52,800 like a lot of older movies, like that were, with out that person, was really yelling because they were 160 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:58,960 getting hurt. I've heard it before. Haven't you? Oh, yeah. It's yeah, it's a lot to think about. Yeah. 161 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:04,480 They also had Freddy's stuntman when he was getting burned and on fire that he's in the Making 162 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:10,240 of as well. And a lot of the people from the film and the director, the head of the studio, they're 163 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:21,040 all in it. So I highly recommend everyone watch that. I do too. Okay. On to 2010. Since we already 164 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:29,840 mentioned it, let's go with, what the fuck was that pool scene? What are we doing? You didn't fall 165 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:38,000 asleep swimming. So why are we having Freddy come into real life worlds? What are we doing? What? 166 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:45,120 That was like, okay, setting at school asleep. Okay. Yeah. I get that. But dudes in there swimming and 167 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:52,480 then all of a sudden, bam. Yeah, that's weird. I thought it when I watched it, I did not understand 168 00:19:52,480 --> 00:20:00,240 what is going on. He's not sleeping. He's in a pool. What is going on? And so it's funny that you 169 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:05,840 said that, because that was one of the biggest irks that I had watching that movie. What were you 170 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:17,520 sleeping? Yeah. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Most definitely. The acting was bad for me, everybody. I hate to say, 171 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:24,400 I just I thought all the acting was bad. The directing was okay. Cinematography was okay, but I was 172 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:31,040 not down with the acting. And the vibe of the characters was so different than the first one. 173 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:37,200 They didn't seem friendly in the movie. So I don't know if they weren't friendly outside of the movie, 174 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:44,400 but when the movie first started from the get go, I was like, this is awkward. Do these kids just 175 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:52,400 see each other in passing at school? What's up? There wasn't the same kind of vibe. No, it was so 176 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:59,680 weird. The dynamics of the characters with each other. I did not like that. And, I'm like you. 177 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:09,520 I wasn't a fan of the twist as into Freddy's story. Oh, no. Yeah. This is spoiler alert. Big 178 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:19,280 spoiler alert. I don't know why, because being a child murderer seems already okay. They took this 179 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:25,360 to a whole nother level. And not only is this a spoiler alert, it's a trigger warning for anyone 180 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:36,240 who unexpectedly might realize Freddy 2010 Freddy is a child molester pedo. Yes. They go deep 181 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:44,800 with it. It's not just insinuated, it goes like full on. I was, I don't know, but I was totally 182 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:53,280 disgusted when he made the comments on the dress, being his favorite one. And it's obviously a 183 00:21:53,280 --> 00:22:02,320 little baby-doll dress, so gross. Yes. And not necessary. I don't understand. Yeah, and I didn't like that. 184 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:09,600 Me either, I wasn't a fan of that. No, I think being a child murderer is perfectly fine. Yeah, that's 185 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:16,640 that's enough. Agreed. I didn't like the end. I wonder what made them take that turn. I have no 186 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:24,160 idea why they would do that. Yeah, I don't know. Bad writing? I don't know. Even which I'm the type of 187 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:31,680 person. Okay, you've got Nightmare on Elm Street one. Then you have Nightmare on Elm Street 2., that's 188 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:40,240 good. We can wrap it up. There's no need to go any further. We don't need vs Jason vs 189 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:48,000 what anything. We were good at the 2. Because after a while, you kind of start running out of story 190 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:56,880 ideas, right? How do you feel on that? I feel like some kind of movies in the same universe, like The 191 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:02,640 Conjuring makes sense because they aren't the same story. Well, that's different. Yeah, that's 192 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,120 totally different because that's different cases from the Warrens. But they’re, it's not like The Conjuring 193 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:11,920 1, and they've just completely done the same, story just tried to play with it a little bit more. 194 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:19,200 I don't know. It's always been weird to me. Yeah, it's never, you're never gonna achieve ever 195 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:25,680 what the first one did. Sure, you might get a good one in there, like number 4 or who knows, 196 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:35,200 number 5. But, for the most part, remakes are not as good and not good at all in a lot of instances. 197 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:42,000 Well, okay, when I watch a remake and I know it's supposed to be a remake, I want it to have 198 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:51,120 new characters, new updated graphics or whatever you want to throw in there. But, the same storyline, 199 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:56,960 just a little updated, you know, that's just me. This one, there were a lot of things that were 200 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:05,600 the same as the first one. Yes, like the girl in the body bag, boiler room. I mean, there were 201 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:14,320 a lot, the bathtub scene. So, this was a genuine remake, this wasn't another version of the film. They 202 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:24,080 really tried to redo the film very similarly, but did a bad job. They did this weird pedo storyline and 203 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:30,480 just stick to your same story, man. Yeah, I don't know what happened there. I don't know. I don't 204 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:37,920 either. I guess I said the directing was okay. The cinematography was okay. I want to say good things. 205 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:45,120 I just, I don't necessarily have any. I mean, just really it wasn't my favorite movie. Does that 206 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:50,240 mean you shouldn't go watch it? No, you should go watch it. Someone could watch it and think it's a 207 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:56,880 10. Absolutely. Anything that we review, something I could give a zero, 10 people might think it's a 208 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:07,920 10. So and if you feel differently in like the 2010 version better than the 1984 version, let us know. 209 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:13,360 I'm definitely interested in that. I'd like to know why. And if you do, there's nothing wrong with 210 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:21,520 it, just because we don’t. No, not at all. And I, you know, read some reviews on Reddit and just 211 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:27,440 to gauge other people's opinions. And there were a couple people that said they liked it. They gave 212 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:34,080 reasons. We're not right, they're  just our opinions always. You know what my mama used to say. 213 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:42,080 If you like it, I love it, and I apply that to my life a lot. If you like it, I love it. That's 214 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:50,000 cool. Let's get together and agree. I really want to say something positive about it. I'm trying to think 215 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:59,040 and I don't, I don't, I like Connie Britton. Nancy's mom. Yeah. And I mean, there were, there was some good 216 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,640 spots in it. They did do like the bathtub scene. I liked it not as well. Of course, it's the original. 217 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:12,800 But yeah, they did some good work. It was some good scenes. But I just prefer that old original 1984 218 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:21,440 version. I also feel like so much of the movie was CGI, I don't like it. The Freddy coming out of 219 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:31,040 the wall looked so cheesy. And in the Making of, they talked about doing that on the first one. 220 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:40,320 They made a wall of spandex. One of the crew members stuck his face in the spandex. And that was 221 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:47,440 Freddy coming out of the wall. And that was so much better than this bad CGI. But there was 222 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:57,840 example after example, in the 2010 version of bad CG. And listen, 2010 wasn't the mecca of CG. Like, 223 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:06,880 yeah, you know, but still if it's going to be done poorly, then don't do it. And I mean, how simple 224 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:13,280 and cool is it to just put some pantyhose up and run your face through it? Yeah. Love it. 225 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:20,160 I'm making it look like bad CG. I love it. Love it. Love it. Yeah. So there was a lot of that that I 226 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:29,760 didn't like either. I feel so negative Nancy. But I just, I got nothing. I just really was put back by 227 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:36,400 him being a pedophile. I'm not gonna lie, I really was. Cause like you said, that was not necessary. 228 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:43,120 We didn't have to do that. No, and it just kind of put a bad taste in your mouth for the whole film. 229 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:48,800 I agree. And I'm sure a lot of people will agree if they stop and actually think about that. 230 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:57,920 Yeah. I like Jackie Earl Haley. Did I love him as Freddy? I'm just so attached to Robert England as 231 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:06,640 Freddy. I didn't love him as Freddy. Another thing, the Robert England Freddy cracked jokes. And this 232 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:15,840 dude was so serious the entire movie. It just wasn't even the same Freddy. No, maybe that was the 233 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:24,720 point, but we're gonna stick to our old ways. Was it a oldy, but a goody? Oh, such a goody. I feel like a jerk 234 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:31,920 when I, I feel bad too. Give bad reviews because people work so hard on the stuff, but I can't help it. 235 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:39,360 But, while they are working hard on this stuff, like any creator, any, anything that you, that's 236 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:44,160 making something to put out to the public, you understand while you're making it that there's 237 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:52,240 gonna be people that don't like it. I know. That's just simple and true. I know people just work hard. 238 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:59,040 And especially acting because acting is also based off of the writing, and it's also based off of 239 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:05,840 other characters that you're interacting with in your scene. And you know, I just, it was just all 240 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:13,840 bad to me. I can really tell when they don't have to be in love, or dating, or anything. 241 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:20,880 Like that. But when two actors or an actor and actress, an actress, actress, whatever has a chemistry 242 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:27,920 together, I just love it. It makes the story so much better. So yeah, I totally get what you're saying 243 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:35,920 with the 1984 version. Yeah, they just all seemed to mesh together so well and it came across 244 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,280 in the movie. Right. And they were all young too, which I guess these other kids were young as well. 245 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:47,840 I was gonna say they were all young and and new to the industry. So, I'm sure that helped their bond. 246 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:54,480 But, I guess the same would probably be said of the 2010 version, because they were all relatively young 247 00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:01,760 too. So just forget everything I just said. We do that sometimes, don't worry. As I talk through that, 248 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,800 I'm like, wait, that should have applied to this one too. Sometimes we just like to talk because we 249 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:17,840 like to hear ourselves. No one likes to hear themselves. No, definitely not. And I've got to get my side 250 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:23,440 figured out because I'm not happy with the way I sound on here and I don't know why. Yeah, we need 251 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:30,960 $300 mics, which is not happening. $300 mics. Oh, they get pricey. Is that what I'd have to get to 252 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:38,240 cut all this out? Probably. Yeah, but it's okay. I've only heard from people that they think we sound 253 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:44,880 professional and we sound good. But some of that could be in the equalizer at the end. But no one 254 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:50,080 has said that either of us sounds bad. So I think we're good. Maybe we're trying to figure out, maybe 255 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:57,520 just the heat kicking on that that's one sound coming from. Yeah. Remember,  we are new in learning. 256 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:04,880 I feel like we've gotten better. We are getting some amazing upcoming guests, I'm excited. 257 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:11,440 This next series that we're doing of three is going to be really, really good. Yeah, I'm super excited. 258 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:18,320 All right. Rating. So we should rate both. Yeah. Let's do 1984 and then 2010. 259 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,560 I can rate the Making of two just for shits and giggles, but 260 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:32,800 sure. Okay, you go first on 1984. 1984. You've done heard me. Of course, I absolutely loved it. 261 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,440 It took me back to set and right up under my mama on the couch watching it with her and 262 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:44,880 I wish I could go back there right now. I'm not going to lie. So that is going to be a good solid 263 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:50,080 9 for me. That is one of the first ones that my mama ever let me watch. And it was comforting 264 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:59,440 to watch it again today. Most definitely. So that's me for 1984. And I'm going to say that 265 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:06,320 since it was also my first one, I have a little bit of an emotional attachment to it clearly, 266 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:12,160 because I bought a piece of equipment that has Freddy on it. I think taking everything into 267 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:23,040 consideration, the score, the director, the acting, the way that they did all this cool, the way that 268 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:30,080 they shot things back in the 80s, everything, I'm going to go 10. You're giving it 10. You know 269 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:40,000 what it deserves? It go right on. I am, it deserves it. It's a legend. And it proved that or thus far 270 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:49,520 that it can't be redone. Yeah, you know how I feel about the remakes in the 12345678910. Yeah. 271 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:58,160 The Making of, I'm going to give the Making of, I'm going to give it a 9.5, because it covered almost 272 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:06,000 everything that I would have wanted to know. And it had so many of the people who worked on it, in it 273 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:13,360 from crew cast studio everything. Love that. I am going 9.5 on the Making of too. 274 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:22,720 Nice. Nice. Nice. Okay. Yeah. So I guess now it's on to 2010. So, I guess I'm going to go first with it. 275 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:32,880 And it wasn't my favorite. It really wasn't. But I'm going to pretend we didn't like I wasn't as 276 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:43,600 turned off by the pedophile. So I'm going to give it a 6.5. That's surprising. I'll give it a 6.5. 277 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:55,680 Okay. You sound so disappointed. Okay. I feel like I try not to judge people but I might have 278 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:03,040 just judged you for a second. You did. It's okay. I don't know. I really try. I don't know why I gave it a 6.5. 279 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:09,840 I don't know. It's okay. I'm trying not to be so darn mean. But I didn't. I wasn't my favorite. But 280 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:18,480 still watch it. I'm going to just say, what I think which is I truly can't really think of anything 281 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:26,000 I loved about it. And outside of the director and I think this was his first film. So taking that into 282 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:34,560 consideration. I'm going to give it a 2. I can say that. I just don't I'm not down with the storyline 283 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:41,120 in any way, shape, or form. I think it’s, it shouldn't have been. I didn't like the acting. I didn't 284 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:52,320 like the CG like this. Really I it's a 2. I almost said 1. I was just I gave a generous review. 285 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:59,440 You do? Watch it. You don't just listen to what we say. Watch it. Of course, you know, we pointed out 286 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:05,280 some things that you may not have noticed or caught on to, which I think everybody would have. But yeah, 287 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:15,280 most definitely still watch it. It is what it is. I'm still team 1984. Absolutely. Oh, that movie is 288 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:23,040 like a part of my soul. Yeah, it was the first movie, like I said ever watched with my mama. And 289 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:31,040 it just you can't beat it. No. Okay. Thank you. Wes Craven. Thank you. Oh, he's oh my gosh, 290 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:38,880 genius. Love him. All right. Well, I guess that's it. If you're now I don't know what episode number 291 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:46,880 this is maybe somewhere between 10 and 12. I think actually, I don't know. Please give us a review 292 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,720 and say how much you love us. Yes, give us a review. Say hi. Leave a little nice message. 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