1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,360 shows that cover true crime, paranormal, and horror. 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,160 I am one of your hosts, Dawn. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,520 I am currently located in Los Angeles, 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,640 and I think I'm pretty well versed in the horror genre, 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,520 especially those 80s classics. 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,240 A quick pun fact about me? 7 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:19,960 I have a very extensive crystal collection. 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,200 - Hello, I'm Amy. 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,680 I'm from Kentucky, and my area of expertise 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,840 for this podcast is paranormal. 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,520 A few fun facts about me. 12 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,640 I'm an empath, I collect old dolls, and you know, 13 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,520 I've never flown on an airplane. 14 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,880 Can you believe that? 15 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,640 Now, Dawn and I are also obsessed with true crime, 16 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,200 so here we are. 17 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,680 Talk gruesome to me. 18 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,560 - Hello, we are here, and so excited, 19 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,560 we have Tory, who just recently acquired 20 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,400 the Haunted Sleeper Mortuary. 21 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,320 Amy and I both watched this YouTube video 22 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,440 that was filmed there, just to kind of see 23 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,800 the things that are going on at the location. 24 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,600 That video on YouTube was Haunted Nights. 25 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,120 Do you want to tell us your socials, 26 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,280 where people can find you, watch videos, 27 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,840 and where they can find the location, 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,520 because you do rent it out. 29 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,160 - Please do share. 30 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,000 - I do. 31 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,600 We are on TikTok. 32 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,080 You can find us on TikTok 33 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,320 under Haunted Sleeper Mortuary. 34 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:25,880 We also have a YouTube page, 35 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,960 and you can look under Sleeper Mortuary. 36 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:32,080 If you type the @ sign in the search bar 37 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,720 and then Sleeper Mortuary, it should bring us up. 38 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,880 We also have a website, 39 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,880 it's www.sleepermortuary.webli.com, 40 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,800 and then Facebook, Sleeper Mortuary. 41 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:45,800 (laughs) 42 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,440 - Makes it easy, yeah. 43 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,240 - And we are located in Lola, Kansas. 44 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,240 It's kind of the southeast portion of Kansas, 45 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,040 a little town, little sleepy town. 46 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,080 - I'm excited, one day I will get there somehow. 47 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,400 - Yes, yes, yes, yes. 48 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,920 - Now you said you just recently bought this mortuary, correct? 49 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,720 - Yes, ma'am. 50 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,840 - Okay, so did you know that there was activity going on there 51 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,480 before you purchased it? 52 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:15,440 - I did not. 53 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,280 - Wow. 54 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,440 - I was interesting. 55 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,000 - In a way, kind of. 56 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,520 I actually happened across this mortuary by accident. 57 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,080 I had been kind of scouting for places for about five years 58 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,720 as you can imagine whenever you're looking for 59 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,480 something of that type of business, 60 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,280 that it's slim pickings. 61 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,120 (laughs) 62 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,640 There's only a select few buildings that would work 63 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:40,520 for anything like that, 64 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,000 and I've tried and failed many, many, many times. 65 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,920 This was actually the seventh building 66 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:47,960 that I've tried to go after. 67 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,560 But anyway, I was looking on realtor.com one day, 68 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,200 and I saw this building. 69 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:57,600 It was listed as a residential area. 70 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,920 Looking at the ad, I thought, 71 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:02,000 this looks really familiar. 72 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,000 It looks very similar to a funeral home that we have locally, 73 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,960 because I do not live in Lola. 74 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,080 I live about an hour away. 75 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,640 But I was thinking, this looks very similar to something 76 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:16,480 that we have locally. 77 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,040 So I researched the address and bam, 78 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,200 I found out that it was the mortuary. 79 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,000 That's how I found out. 80 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,880 My very good best friend, Stephanie, 81 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,440 she owns Macinture Villain in Kansas. 82 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,760 She is also a realtor. 83 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,920 So I called her, I'm like, we have to go see this, 84 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:36,960 she agreed. 85 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,720 We went to look at the property, 86 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,680 we were touring the property. 87 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,440 It was me and her, my youngest child, 88 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,400 and then the seller's realtor was also present 89 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,120 because there was things in the building 90 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,120 that they didn't want us to be mess with, 91 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,080 such as the elevator, and they were there for safety reasons. 92 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,000 All of us, all four of us heard a disembodied voice, 93 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,560 and that is what ended up ultimately, that's how. 94 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,240 I placed my offer based on that. 95 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,000 - Like right then and there? 96 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,920 - Well, yes and no. 97 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,120 So it actually is kind of a long complicated process. 98 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,160 It's not an easy, I was already pre-approved for a loan, 99 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,040 because at least in Kansas anyway, 100 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,800 you can't view properties without having 101 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,920 a word letter or whatever they call it, 102 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,160 but basically saying that you've been pre-approved, 103 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,560 that you would be able to get this loan, 104 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,800 they won't let you look at properties without it. 105 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,200 So I went through the process and I got the pre-approval 106 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:42,000 for a residential loan, and then we kind of hit a snag 107 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,480 to where, because the building itself 108 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,480 is both its dual zone, residential and commercial, 109 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,280 because the first floor is considered a commercial property, 110 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:57,080 is zoning, and the city won't change that zoning, 111 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,440 because it's within a block of the city square, 112 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,080 because we're right off of the city square, 113 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,320 so a zone change is not possible with that property. 114 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,160 I no longer qualified for the residential loan 115 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,320 for the purchase of that property. 116 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,520 Overall, I ended up getting frustrated, 117 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,960 and I'm like, ah, this is it again, 118 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,760 you know, it's a no again, and I was heartbroken, 119 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,760 but I started to think, because I already knew in my head 120 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:29,440 that getting a commercial loan takes about three months 121 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,120 from start to finish. 122 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,200 The way that I thought it went in my head 123 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,200 versus the way that it actually goes down 124 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,640 are two completely different things. 125 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,800 So anybody looking for a property I'm here to tell you, 126 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,760 it does not go the way that you think it does. 127 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,760 With a commercial loan, there is also a lot of extra papers 128 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,320 that you have to do. 129 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,800 Residential loan, you just buy commercial loan, 130 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,280 you have to show a business plan, 131 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:57,720 you have to show financial protections, 132 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,960 you have to do all of these extra things 133 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,960 in order to even be considered or looked at for a loan. 134 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,200 One day, I was telling myself, 135 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,080 I looked at it initially in June of this, 136 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:16,000 of last year, a week and October of last year, 137 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,840 I was sitting, well, it was probably August, 138 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:20,760 a little bit of August. 139 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,240 I kept telling myself I was just gonna go to the bank 140 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,080 and see what can be done, 141 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,640 because I could not let it go. 142 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,560 This property would not allow me to move forward. 143 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,520 My soul would not let it go. 144 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,200 I was always thinking about it. 145 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,320 I was so in love with it. 146 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,960 I kept telling myself, I'm like, 147 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,720 I'm gonna go and I'm gonna check it 148 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,040 and just see what would be required, right? 149 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,640 I can't put it off. 150 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,480 I got to do this and I got chores and I got errands 151 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:52,560 and all of these things. 152 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,960 And then one day, Verizon went down. 153 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,120 The phones would not work for like 12 hours. 154 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,400 I couldn't do anything that I was doing. 155 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,440 I would go to the gym, for example, 156 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,640 and my workout plan was on my phone. 157 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,400 I couldn't use it because I didn't have any, 158 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,520 basically life kind of shut down for me, 159 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,240 as far as not a bad thing, it wasn't a bad thing. 160 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,360 But that just goes to show you how much 161 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,520 we rely on our electronics the daily. 162 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,160 But I didn't have anything else to do and I'm like, 163 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,320 you know what, I'm just gonna go to the bank, 164 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,160 because why not? 165 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,720 Because I can't do anything else. 166 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,080 So I might as well go talk to them 167 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,880 and I was pre-approved within a week. 168 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,960 Do you think your being so persistent 169 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,240 on this location was because you heard the voice 170 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,520 when you were there visiting, or do you think it was 171 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,440 because you had been looking for so many years 172 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,120 and you found a place that is cool. 173 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,280 Like what do you think was the reason why this felt 174 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,480 so passionate to get this place? 175 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,720 - So I'm actually very excited to talk about this answer 176 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,920 because when they say that you don't choose 177 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,000 the building, the building chooses you 178 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,880 and I 1,000% believe that, because the unbeknownst to me 179 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,120 a little bit about my background. 180 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,080 Prior to becoming an ER nurse, I worked on an ambulance. 181 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,760 My worked on an ambulance for about 16 years 182 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,440 prior to becoming an nurse. 183 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,600 I worked in the county that I live in. 184 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,040 I live in Crawford, Giammy in Kansas 185 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:34,040 and I got a job at the local ambulance service. 186 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:39,040 Now my boss took the place of his father. 187 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,920 His father was running a call, he was a paramedic, 188 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,240 he was running a call, he was transporting a child 189 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,960 to the hospital and when they got to the hospital 190 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,760 he had from what I understand a massive art attack 191 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,520 and he passed away. 192 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,480 So when I was digging into the history of this mortuary 193 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,280 the last owner of the mortuary was Paul Friskel 194 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,080 and his wife Pat. 195 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,880 In the late 80s they had two daughters 196 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,480 and five grandchildren pass away 197 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,560 and a trained versus car accident all in the same day. 198 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:16,320 No. 199 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,200 One of those little kids was the same call 200 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,320 that my boss was running, that was one of the kids. 201 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:29,000 Yeah, there's definitely a lot of tragic stories 202 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,240 wrapped up in the history of this mortuary 203 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,160 and just unfortunate. 204 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,960 I mean, I tell you what, those two people 205 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,160 are way stronger humans than I am. 206 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,920 I could not imagine losing two of my daughters 207 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,880 and five of my grandchildren all in one day. 208 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,640 Good, I don't know. 209 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,320 Yeah, terrible. 210 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,040 But yeah, that is, it all came full circle. 211 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,760 I guess is what I'm saying. 212 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,600 And then it probably validated 213 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,120 why you felt so strong. 214 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,400 Yeah, and I didn't know that at the time. 215 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,240 I didn't know that at the time. 216 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,680 I made my offer after I got pre-approved 217 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:11,040 and they accepted my offer three, I think three days later. 218 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,120 And that is when the three months long process starts. 219 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,280 So it's not when you initially apply 220 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,680 like I thought it was. 221 00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:21,960 It is after the offer is accepted. 222 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,080 And you were specifically looking for a place 223 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,880 to rent out for investigating? 224 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:27,640 Yes. 225 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,880 That was my intention, yes. 226 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,040 Oh, I can't wait one day. 227 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,000 One day. 228 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,920 I would love to have you for sure. 229 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:35,600 I know. 230 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,920 And how did you get into investigating? 231 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,480 I've been involved in the paranormal. 232 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,920 I mean, it's always been kind of a part of my life 233 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,600 throughout it. 234 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,160 It was just things that initially-- 235 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,480 like I grew up in a haunted house. 236 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,720 Now I will say within this haunted house, 237 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,280 I am the only person out of the five total people 238 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,840 that were there that ever experienced anything in that house. 239 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Like my father is not-- 240 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,440 he is not a believer in the paranormal 241 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,640 that he does 1,000% support me and he will show up 242 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,960 and he will do the things. 243 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,720 It's just not his cup of tea, which is fine. 244 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,840 I completely respect it. 245 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,520 He went to the mortuary and fixed a door knob for me. 246 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,720 This house is like dead. 247 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,600 And he's like, yes, Tory, I'll lockup. 248 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,160 And then he's like, you know, I'm getting old. 249 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,320 I can't just fix stuff all the time. 250 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,760 So there was something like that. 251 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,840 And I'm like, I didn't really need you to fix it. 252 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,800 I just wanted you to see it because I know. 253 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:38,040 So yeah, I am actually very lucky. 254 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,560 I have a biological father. 255 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:42,520 And I have my stepfather that I call my father. 256 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,920 So whenever I refer to him as my father, 257 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,360 that's who I'm talking about. 258 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,640 He raised me from little. 259 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,800 And my biological father is just involved. 260 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,880 And he is the fan of the paranormal. 261 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,720 In fact, him and my aunts and one of my cousins 262 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,760 and my uncles, they did an overnight there. 263 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,400 They'd never done it before. 264 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,720 That's so cool. 265 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,160 Yeah, so I mean, I got it from both sides. 266 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,600 I got believers and non-believers, but I squirreled 267 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:13,600 for a second. 268 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,720 But yes, I grew up in a haunted house, 269 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,920 or at least in my mind, it was a haunted house. 270 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,160 And that's ultimately what got me in there. 271 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,200 And do you think you have ability-- 272 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,720 like, why do you think you experienced the things at your house 273 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,800 but other people didn't? 274 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,240 You know, I'm not sure. 275 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Would I say that I'm sensitive? 276 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,320 Probably. 277 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:42,080 Would I say that I've communicated maybe more than the average 278 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,240 person? 279 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,720 I would say probably. 280 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,480 Is it something that I openly admit to? 281 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:48,920 No. 282 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,200 But yeah, I would say so. 283 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:50,840 Yeah. 284 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,680 I would be interested to see you take 285 00:12:54,680 --> 00:12:58,440 the non-believing father in there for an overnight. 286 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,880 Now I would like to see that. 287 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,560 Now, I will say that there is only one single time 288 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:08,520 that I have ever heard him mention anything 289 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:15,320 about the paranormal that made me not really question. 290 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,040 But I'm like, it's in there. 291 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,000 You know what I mean? 292 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,040 And it was an unfortunate situation. 293 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,800 My grandmother had had a stroke. 294 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,440 And she was in the hospital and she was on comfort care. 295 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,760 And she ended up passing away that night. 296 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,440 And as we said our goodbyes, and we were walking out the door, 297 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:42,560 all of the power in the hospital went off. 298 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:45,200 And then it kicked over to generate her power. 299 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,800 And my father, he's like, I can't remember exactly what he said, 300 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:50,880 because I was kind of shocked. 301 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,080 He said it, but he's like, well, there she is going out 302 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,080 with a bang. 303 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,560 And that is the only thing I have ever heard him say ever 304 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:01,320 in the history of my life. 305 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,600 And he's never said anything since then. 306 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,920 That's funny. 307 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:09,720 He's like, OK, that was weird and interesting, even for a skeptic. 308 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:10,720 Right. 309 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,920 See, I would like to see him go in just simply 310 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,160 because he doesn't believe, he's skeptic. 311 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,960 And, I appreciate and respect a skeptic. 312 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,520 So you'll never hear me be like, nope. 313 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:25,080 Yeah. 314 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,280 That would be me. 315 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,320 Yeah. 316 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,080 All the love in the world to you. 317 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,960 Because I mean, not everything's paranormal. 318 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:32,640 Right. 319 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:32,920 Right. 320 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,360 And it's not. 321 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,240 And sometimes I wonder if it's-- 322 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:42,600 because in my brain, it's like skepticism versus fear, 323 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,840 and which one does it really fall into. 324 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,880 But both I respect. 325 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:48,480 Right. 326 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:49,200 OK. 327 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,560 But I've seen you investigate. 328 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:58,240 And I even told Amy when I said, oh, I want Tory to come on. 329 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,000 I said, she's a total badass. 330 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,720 She reminds me of Katrina, who is my favorite. 331 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:06,520 And Amy's-- 332 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,960 We love some Katrina around here. 333 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:09,880 Yes. 334 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,440 And every show she's ever been on, 335 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,160 who's the one that goes to the basement alone? 336 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,680 Our girl. 337 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,400 I do it. 338 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:18,920 Yeah. 339 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,560 Exactly. 340 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,520 So it's funny you say that because I don't-- 341 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,640 and I've seen you investigate quite a few times. 342 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,360 I don't think I've ever seen you seem afraid. 343 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,360 I don't get afraid very-- 344 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,760 I wouldn't say-- 345 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,520 I wouldn't say it's fear. 346 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,400 I would say it's, well, maybe sometimes. 347 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,720 You get that little pit in your stomach, 348 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,360 and you question on whether or not you should really 349 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,800 be there or not. 350 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,720 And part of you wants to leave. 351 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:56,040 But that's also the addiction at the same time. 352 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:56,720 Yeah. 353 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,800 I feel like that's more of a caution. 354 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,720 I don't think that's really being scared, 355 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,720 because you're still going to go for it. 356 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,440 Yeah. 357 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,080 I mean, if you want a lot of people say your brave, 358 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:15,320 but am I really-- or am I just stupid? 359 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,320 I mean-- 360 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,440 [LAUGHTER] 361 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,600 I'm just playing. 362 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,720 The universe checks in every once in a while 363 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,000 to see if I'm stupid, and yes, I am. 364 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,960 That is the answer. 365 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,800 Aren’t we all just a little bit? 366 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:28,800 Yeah, exactly. 367 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:29,800 Then all three of us-- 368 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,320 It's just those little life lessons 369 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,880 that keep coming back to haunt us. 370 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,280 And I'm still stupid every single time. 371 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,000 And just like last week, and we slept for 7 and 1/2 hours 372 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,480 peacefully in the demon house. 373 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,240 You know? 374 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,240 So-- 375 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:51,120 And I sleep peacefully, usually whenever I go places to. 376 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:51,800 Yeah. 377 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:57,000 I will say that the vibe of the mortuary is very good. 378 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,440 I've not ever come across anything 379 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:06,520 that I would say was threatening or mean or any of that. 380 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,240 It is very cool. 381 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,080 Calm, vibe, and fact. 382 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,280 I am 1,000% allow children to come, 383 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,520 like if their parents want to investigate with their kids. 384 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,400 And they're always asked, is it ok if my 14-year-old comes, 385 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,200 they really want to come? 386 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,840 Because a lot of places have rules against that, 387 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,360 which I understand and respect. 388 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:32,120 I'm not that place's owner. 389 00:17:32,120 --> 00:17:34,200 I don't know what hazards they have there. 390 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,720 I don't know what lurks in their house, 391 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,160 or whatever. 392 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,200 I just know that for me and for the mortuary, 393 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:48,080 that everything seems to be very benign, peaceful, loving. 394 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,720 Like I said, I've not. 395 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,840 Now, I mean, we get the occasional FU and get out of here. 396 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,520 But also we're over there annoying the tar out of them 397 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,360 by being in their space. 398 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:03,880 And what is your name? 399 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,840 Touch this for me. 400 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:05,360 Get out. 401 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:06,040 No, thank you. 402 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,480 Can you touch that rem pod? 403 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,280 I've told you my name a million times. 404 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,000 And you know what? 405 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,160 If people do not think that spirit is like us in a lot of ways 406 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,960 and sometimes do not want to be bothered just like we don't, 407 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,960 then you probably need to think again. 408 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:22,600 Yeah. 409 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:23,320 Yes. 410 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,600 It's the same. 411 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,640 And I explain that too. 412 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,240 It's like these are people too. 413 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,680 Like I've seen people freak out because, oh my gosh, 414 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,640 they said my name. 415 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,600 But also, yeah. 416 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,120 Why wouldn't they know your name? 417 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:38,840 Like you've been walking around here for the last two hours 418 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,160 and people are talking to you and they refer to you. 419 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,560 Why wouldn't they know your name? 420 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,840 Actually, I'm kind of happy they do, because now you know how 421 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,160 to address each other and that's important. 422 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,160 That is how you establish communication. 423 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,640 That is how you create comfort. 424 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:56,200 And that is how you create conversation in my opinion. 425 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,200 It would be like going to Walmart and speaking to someone 426 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,400 and just like them standing there looking at you. 427 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,120 Then when they speak to you, just taking off running. 428 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:06,560 I don't get it. 429 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,840 That's what you're there for. 430 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:09,840 Yeah. 431 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,320 Do you remember the very first time you investigated there? 432 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,360 Did you get anything? 433 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:16,200 Oh my gosh. 434 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,120 I always feel like when I go somewhere, 435 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:20,680 the very first time it's ever been investigated. 436 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,280 It's usually pretty quiet. 437 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,880 It was pretty lit the first time that I went in. 438 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,800 The day that I bought it, Stephanie, my realtor slash/bestie. 439 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,120 We had kind of a celebratory night. 440 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:38,480 And it was me, Stephanie, my other bestie 441 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,160 from-- she drove down from North Dakota 442 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,880 at six months pregnant to show up for me. 443 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,720 And I just love that. 444 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,240 But yeah, she left work at five o'clock on Thursday evening 445 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,120 and she was there by noon on Friday. 446 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:56,080 And then my other bestie, Melissa. 447 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,880 So, we all stayed that night in the mortuary. 448 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:04,160 And we were giddy like schoolgirls running around. 449 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:10,000 And of course, we had snacks and conversation or whatever. 450 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,280 But that is probably when the most epic EVPS 451 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,760 I thought said VIP. 452 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,720 I mean, call it what you will. 453 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,480 But that is one of the most epic EVPs that 454 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,000 have come out of the building that I've heard thus far. 455 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,440 I do have it posted on my TikTok. 456 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,160 But we were up in the flower room, 457 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:35,800 and Stephanie was running a Panasonic DR60. 458 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,240 And on the EVP, it's weird because it 459 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,880 sounds like two spirits talking to each other. 460 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,320 There's two different females, two different EVPs, 461 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,400 but they're back to back like they're talking to each other. 462 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,840 And one said, 'are they dead yet?' 463 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,600 And the other one says, 'they're cold.' 464 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,480 Now, initially, people are like, oh my gosh. 465 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,840 They're like, what are they talking about? 466 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,320 But it makes sense. 467 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,160 You're in the flower room where they made flower arrangements. 468 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,000 There could be dead flowers. 469 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,080 They probably are cold because flowers are refrigerated. 470 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,960 It's just like little things that I just-- 471 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,240 I didn't find that threatening, I guess. 472 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,960 And that's why I say I just don't know what the line is where 473 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,920 you would consider something bad versus good. 474 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,640 I know what I mean. 475 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,360 But I was not threatened by it. 476 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,920 But that's the most epic EVP that I ever 477 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,280 got out of that building. 478 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,080 And that was the first night that we were there. 479 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,320 They might have just been simply curious about you guys 480 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,840 because you were new to the building. 481 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,760 And maybe she did reach out and touch to you 482 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:45,680 and it felt cold. 483 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,240 So it's like, I don't know, they're cold, 484 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,400 So I guess they are. 485 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,160 And that was, it was cold because it was snowing. 486 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,760 It was snowing outside. 487 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,080 That's awesome to hear that. 488 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,240 That's great. 489 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,080 Yeah. 490 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,400 I want to know, you said that this was kind of put out 491 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,640 as a residential, right? 492 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,240 In the beginning? 493 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,520 Why didn't you consider living there, too? 494 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,680 Because I don't want to live where I work. 495 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,360 I think like all good things, you still 496 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:17,680 have to create a safe space for yourself. 497 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,800 And I'm not saying that it's not a safe space, 498 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,120 but you need brain space. 499 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:22,920 You need personal space. 500 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,680 And I feel like if I were to live there, 501 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,160 then my time would be consumed with it. 502 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,200 And I have to have balance. 503 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,080 I think everybody should have balance. 504 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,200 Now, is that against anybody that chooses 505 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,200 to live on their property? 506 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,040 No. 507 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,080 But for me personally, I have to have balance. 508 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:46,400 And I don't want to get to a point to where that's all I do. 509 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,280 And all I think about because I'm a mom, I'm a nurse. 510 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,520 I'm an author. 511 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,360 I'm a sister. 512 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:54,200 I'm an aunt. 513 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,200 I have all these roles. 514 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:02,960 And not only that, but with it, being a mother, 515 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,160 I want to respect the space of my children as well. 516 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,560 And I don't feel like that would be very good for her 517 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,920 because she does have a lot of fear, which 518 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,920 is fine and healthy. 519 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,000 And we're learning. 520 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,280 And we're learning not to be afraid, 521 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,160 but to immerse her in an environment like that. 522 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,480 I feel would be very unfair of me as a mom to do. 523 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,480 Yeah. 524 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:32,160 I won't ever live there, but I will have epic adventures there. 525 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,720 I respect that answer, but if I was your daughter, 526 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,080 I'd be like, mom, it's OK. 527 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,880 We can live there. 528 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,560 But I respect that answer, yeah. 529 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,840 Do you know-- did any of the previous mortuary owners 530 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:49,720 live there? 531 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,920 Yes. 532 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,240 The person that I bought it from, he lived there 533 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,920 on the second floor just shy of a decade. 534 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,760 He bought it in 2016, sold it in January 2025 to me. 535 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,640 So nine years, he lived there. 536 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,680 Wow. 537 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,640 He was as far as I know the only family that lived there. 538 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,600 However, I do know that it was common for mortuary owners 539 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,600 to live above their businesses. 540 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,840 I can't say that that didn't take place, 541 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,320 but I can't prove that it did. 542 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,000 It's kind of an impasse. 543 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:28,000 I do know that the first thing to go in there after it 544 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,680 closes the mortuary in 1998, was a coed college dorm 545 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,920 for the local community college. 546 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,600 They remodeled the second floor. 547 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,360 And this is kind of another interesting story that comes out 548 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:42,280 of it. 549 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,000 There was a group here, or there, I guess I should say. 550 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,160 I'm not there right now. 551 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,240 There is a group that was investigating 552 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,280 and they heard talking coming from the elevator shaft. 553 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,360 It was Spooky Okie, out of Oklahoma, 554 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,080 but they heard talking coming out of the elevator shaft. 555 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,040 Yeah, I know her. 556 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,840 Yeah, Gina, she's super cool. 557 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,680 And I can't verify, because I wasn't there. 558 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,520 I go by what they tell me. 559 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,960 But later in a different thing that I was doing on TikTok, 560 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,400 I was talking about the situation. 561 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,440 She said yes, it was distinctly a male 562 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,440 that they heard talking in the elevator shaft. 563 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,120 The previous owner was over getting his mail. 564 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:25,800 We have become pretty good friends, I would say. 565 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,600 He found out what I'm doing with the building. 566 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,840 He's 1,000% supportive. 567 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,880 He still has a set of keys to it. 568 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,880 He helps me out if I need it. 569 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:39,560 But one of his questions is, did the group have a good night 570 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,640 or whatever, and I was talking about the elevator shaft? 571 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,120 And he said, well, he said, 'you know this was a college dorm, 572 00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:48,880 right?' 573 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,080 And I said, 'yeah, I do, because I found that in the history 574 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,720 through the newspapers.' 575 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,160 And he said, 'do you know why it's not anymore?' 576 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,480 And I go, 'no, I saw that it was, and then it wasn't. 577 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,800 And that's all I know.' 578 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,920 But I feel some information coming. 579 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,000 But he said that-- and he was born and raised in Iowa. 580 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,200 So he's been there his entire life. 581 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,800 He said that the college kids, when they moved in, 582 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,720 they started reporting paranormal activity 583 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,400 to whoever they report that to. 584 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,160 I don't know if they have like hall monitor. 585 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,280 I don't know what the situation is, 586 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,080 but they were reporting this paranormal activity. 587 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,320 Nobody was really quite believing them, I guess. 588 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,800 And they said, one night, one of the students jumped down 589 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,520 the elevator shaft and ran down the street. 590 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,960 And it was said that he was possessed. 591 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,040 Now, I can't verify this story. 592 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,440 I have not found it in any newspapers. 593 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,640 I have not seen anything to give credibility to this story. 594 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,880 Not saying as false. 595 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,960 I'm just saying, I can't prove it. 596 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,880 But what I can prove is that it was only 597 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,800 a college dorm for three months. 598 00:26:58,800 --> 00:26:59,320 Oh. 599 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,960 [LAUGHS] 600 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,880 That did not last long. 601 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,640 No. 602 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,720 So he wasn't hurt? 603 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,400 I was going to say, OK, she's going to tell me. 604 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,800 So my fell down the elevator shaft and yeah, 605 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:14,960 that's what happened. 606 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,040 But no, they just didn't-- 607 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:17,560 Wow. 608 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,360 I don't know what-- 609 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,240 I don't know whatever came of it. 610 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,880 I was told that all of the college students 611 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,000 moved out that night and never came back. 612 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,480 Oh, wow. 613 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,240 Which I cannot-- like I said, I can't verify it. 614 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,440 But I can verify it and I can prove 615 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,720 that it was a college dorm for three months. 616 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,480 If you can verify and you can prove, 617 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,240 reach out to us. 618 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,240 I will. 619 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,680 I will. 620 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,920 There's still a lot of research to be done. 621 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,120 And I'm always looking and I'm always hunting and searching. 622 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,120 And because I'm a nerd, I like to research. 623 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,440 And that's what I do in my spare time. 624 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,560 But yeah. 625 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,040 On the other flip side of it also is 626 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,040 that I had to deal with the police here recently 627 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,440 for just something benign. 628 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:07,800 It really was just benign. 629 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,720 But it was something that needed to be done. 630 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,640 So the police officer, we got done 631 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,040 talking about what we needed to talk about. 632 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,840 And then he was talking about the paranormal. 633 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,600 And the particular situation that we were dealing with, 634 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,720 he's like, well, I'm a skeptic. 635 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,160 But he'd been a police officer for a long time. 636 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,680 And I told him that if him or any other officers 637 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,320 were working today and they've never been in this building, 638 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,720 openly invite you guys to come. 639 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,960 In the event that there's an emergency, 640 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,360 so you guys know what you're walking into. 641 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,240 So you kind of know the layout of the land. 642 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,840 So if you had to come in here for somebody, 643 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,800 then you wouldn't be completely lost. 644 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,120 Because it's big. 645 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,480 It's a big building. 646 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,480 15,000 square feet total across three floors. 647 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,760 Each floor is 5,000 square feet. 648 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,920 It's huge. 649 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,160 So I'm like, if you want to come check it out, you can. 650 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,880 And he's like, oh no, I've been all over this building. 651 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,760 I know that there was a lot of offices in there at one time too. 652 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,200 But he had started to talk about some calls 653 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,200 that he had been on for there to-- 654 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,360 there was some college students that would call 911 655 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,520 because they were hearing talking in the house. 656 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,200 And they thought somebody was in the house, 657 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,040 and they would have to come and clear the building. 658 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,200 So there's two separate people that 659 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,400 have talked about the college kids that resided there. 660 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,920 But like I said, I can't prove that it happened, 661 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,840 but I can prove that they were only there for three months. 662 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,200 I mean, there has to be some validity to the three-month thing. 663 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:43,840 Come on. 664 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,840 Yeah. 665 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,040 So after the college students left from everything 666 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,120 that I can tell through the newspapers, 667 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,360 there was a series of stores. 668 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,680 I think one of the stores was a basket store where they made-- 669 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,320 I don't know-- gift baskets or something. 670 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,440 They were there for maybe a month. 671 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,760 There was a flea market there that was there maybe four months. 672 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,640 There was a photography studio that was there for a month. 673 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,720 Nobody really stayed ever. 674 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,800 Wow. 675 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,200 Except for the guy that lived there for nine years. 676 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,080 Yeah. 677 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,520 So and I kind of talked to him about that. 678 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:26,080 I asked him about the activity that if he had any. 679 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,440 Because now I'm curious. 680 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,320 I'm like, I heard this thing. 681 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,920 I'm looking at the history. 682 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,360 I feel like there's a reason that nothing 683 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,840 has ever stayed in there longer than a month, two-month, 684 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,600 three-month time span. 685 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,440 I think maybe the longest building or the longest business 686 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,800 was like six months maybe. 687 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,480 So I might have you experience anything. 688 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,280 And he talks about on the second floor 689 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,640 that he would see a shadow person almost nightly 690 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,240 across the hallway. 691 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,000 It would go either direction. 692 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,320 Because the way that the mortuary is set up on the second floor, 693 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,920 you have two living rooms. 694 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,200 I call it the small living room and the big living room. 695 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,760 So his TV was in the small living room. 696 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,280 And in between the two living rooms, 697 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,000 there is this giant long hallway 698 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,480 where there's five bedrooms and three bathrooms. 699 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,840 Spand across this long hallway. 700 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,760 So at the very end of the hallway, 701 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,840 that is where he would see it across. 702 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:27,760 He said that he has had his fair share of paranormal experiences 703 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,040 outside of that home. 704 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,840 He lived in several homes that had activity. 705 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,400 And he said that I don't know that it didn't exist. 706 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,320 I just don't know that I paid attention to it 707 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,800 because I was just sensitized to it 708 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,040 because of the previous places that I lived, which is fair. 709 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,920 I can-- every time I catch something or somebody 710 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,320 catches something, I text it to him. 711 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,040 I send him a text message with a link. 712 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,560 So he can-- he watches all the things. 713 00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,640 He listens to it. 714 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,680 He's like, my god. 715 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,400 He's like, I can't believe all of this stuff is happening. 716 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,800 He's like, I just-- I feel like I probably ignored. 717 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,280 He did talk about one time where he was working on one 718 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,120 of the fireplaces in there. 719 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,760 He didn't see anything. 720 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,520 He didn't hear anything. 721 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,760 But what I got from the conversation 722 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,960 is that the room just felt occupied. 723 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,320 Like, there was-- the environment was different. 724 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,400 It was just weird. 725 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,040 And he started to sweat. 726 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,520 He started to get nauseous. 727 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,760 And at that point, he got his shit or his stuff. 728 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,880 And he left. 729 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,640 He bounced. 730 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,600 He's like, I'm out. 731 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,600 And he said, that's the only time 732 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,560 that the building ever scared him out of there. 733 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,600 And he didn't have-- that was one of the more notable times, 734 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,320 I guess. 735 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,640 I swear all the time, by the way. 736 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,040 Yeah, it's fine. 737 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,960 I was like, oh, gosh. 738 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,280 No, you're good. 739 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,080 I noticed how you said he didn't-- 740 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,560 or thinks maybe he didn't notice some of the stuff. 741 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,760 Do you think maybe the activity has become more open 742 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,280 and a little bit more frequent since there 743 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,240 is investigations going on in there now? 744 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,760 I'm not sure. 745 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,440 As far as I know, the building was never investigated 746 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,320 prior to me in January. 747 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,640 I don't-- I think there's a learning curve, in my opinion. 748 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,680 I feel like the spirits are learning 749 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,240 how to interact with people, how to use equipment. 750 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,680 I don't know what it's like over there, 751 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,160 but I imagine it's just like anything else on our side. 752 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,760 Like you get a new vacuum. 753 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,000 You see it, and you're kind of checking it out. 754 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,160 And it's-- I mean, maybe programs like Audacity, for example. 755 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,560 You just never really know. 756 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,360 I might take you a minute. 757 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,480 Might take you a minute to figure it out. 758 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,000 But they use their spirit Google, and they figure it out, 759 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,640 whatever it is. 760 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,520 But I do think they're still learning. 761 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,800 Now, I think that when I initially went into the building, 762 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,080 I feel like the communication for me 763 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,200 was a lot more than it is now. 764 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:10,920 Why that is? 765 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,280 I'm not sure. 766 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,600 I hear a lot of disembodied voices while I'm there. 767 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,200 A lot. 768 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,920 The kids heard them, or my youngest, has heard them. 769 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,040 People that come in and investigate, 770 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,400 they do hear them talking, which if you watch the Haunted 771 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,080 Night's episode when he was talking about how it just 772 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,000 sounds like you're hearing one side of a conversation. 773 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,880 And it's just like, what, what, what? 774 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,200 That is what people describe nine times out of ten. 775 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,520 It's not as clear. 776 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,280 I've caught full sentences. 777 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,520 We've caught full sentences on recorder. 778 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,160 But not everybody catches that. 779 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,000 And I'm not sure why. 780 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,120 When I investigate it, I've been trying since January 781 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,800 to get them to set a rem pod off, and they just will not do it. 782 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,720 But they'll do it for everybody else. 783 00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:02,720 So I don't know what the antecedent is for activity there. 784 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,000 However, I think that's the best part. 785 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,680 I think that's what makes it fun. 786 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,400 We're learning about them, and they're learning about us. 787 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,520 And I'm not going to be the same as you. 788 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,120 If you come, and you walk in there, 789 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,800 you may have a vibe that they vibe with better. 790 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,640 I don't know what the antecedent is. 791 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,400 And I think that that's one of the cool things 792 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,040 about the paranormal is trying to figure it out 793 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,520 and figure out the whys, hows, and what fors. 794 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,480 I do know that people have good nights there. 795 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,200 I have not had anybody walk away without having 796 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,040 any experiences at all. 797 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,800 I know it's going to happen, but that's 798 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,280 kind of the nature of the beast. 799 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,720 Sometimes you walk in, and you have a really good night. 800 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:44,960 Start to finish, paranormal off the charts. 801 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,120 And then sometimes, you'll go to the same place, 802 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,440 and you will not receive one single thing ever. 803 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,520 That's OK. 804 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,600 I'm OK with it. 805 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,000 It breaks my heart for them. 806 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,600 That's just the way it is, though. 807 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,280 Yeah, but anybody that is truly in this for the right reasons 808 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,000 will realize that they are not there to entertain us. 809 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000 It's all in their time, and you appreciate what you get. 810 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,760 I never go in anywhere expecting anything. 811 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,880 So if nothing happens, it's OK. 812 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,240 And the worst case or in the best case, 813 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:19,960 I guess we should say, because I enjoy it, 814 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,040 you get to see a cool new building. 815 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,520 Yeah, and I agree. 816 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,040 I agree. 817 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:29,200 And I guess when I say I'm OK with it, 818 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,240 it's not like I'm scared that it's going to happen. 819 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:33,920 I know it's going to happen. 820 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,200 And my-- what do you want to call it? 821 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,800 I just want people to know or to see 822 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,760 or experience how cool that building really is. 823 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,160 I mean, it's so cool. 824 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,480 It's so cool. 825 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,840 I think from the Haunted Nights, their episode, 826 00:36:54,840 --> 00:37:00,640 the two things that I love the most were they caught a whistle. 827 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,680 And I caught that same whistle. 828 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,400 I heard. 829 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,240 Yeah, it's on your TikTok. 830 00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:07,200 And the second thing was the balloon. 831 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,240 But I was confused by the balloon. 832 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:12,960 Did it have like sand or something in the bottom? 833 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,680 So it's a lighted balloon. 834 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,080 It has one of those like little LED lights in it 835 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,440 at the bottom that's fixed on the balloon. 836 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,200 It doesn't free-flow in the balloon. 837 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,480 It's just fixed. 838 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,560 So it creates like a weight at the bottom. 839 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,400 So that's why it never actually went anywhere. 840 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,000 It just stayed. 841 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,720 I know I was confused. 842 00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:36,480 I'm like, why is it standing up, though? 843 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,360 Yeah. 844 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,520 Because there's a light in there. 845 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,720 Got it. 846 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,240 If anyone wants to watch that episode, 847 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:46,120 the balloon moves so much. 848 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,200 It's good. 849 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,440 Yeah, it says. 850 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,800 And it's done it for me. 851 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,880 And it's done it on command for me. 852 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,200 I have-- actually, I blow up balloons 853 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,960 and the group that walked in there tonight 854 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,680 have like five balloons blown up for them, 855 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,480 because I know it's something that happens. 856 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,240 So I just kind of leave them about. 857 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:05,400 I know I wonder if it's a kid. 858 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,800 We do have children. 859 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,640 Aww. 860 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:08,560 That makes sense. 861 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,320 We do have children, or at least I think we do. 862 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,840 I'm not-- 863 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,360 I mean, as you can imagine, there's 864 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:20,000 been a lot of services that involve children, unfortunately. 865 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,320 Yeah. 866 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,240 Unfortunately, it’s part of it. 867 00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:28,760 But I believe it was Spooky Okie that they were doing 868 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,040 like an EVP session with the haunted doll room. 869 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,720 And they asked if you want to go on a tour, 870 00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:39,360 and you heard-- I think it said yes, or something like that. 871 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,880 And then you heard these little tiny feet run away. 872 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,000 It was the coolest thing. 873 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,640 It was just like-- 874 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,840 Oh, yeah. 875 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,920 Because a haunted location isn't 876 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,320 enough there are also haunted objects there. 877 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,520 Yes, there is. 878 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,120 There is. 879 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,800 I love it. 880 00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:02,240 And part of my passion and my drive and my love 881 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:06,000 goes to education as well. 882 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,880 I own a mortuary. 883 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,320 And I thought that it would be cool 884 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:17,200 to be able to educate people on post-mortem things 885 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,880 and memorials and things like that. 886 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,360 Because first and foremost, I'm still a human being. 887 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:28,360 And I still have feelings for the families that 888 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,400 have lost people. 889 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,680 We've all lost somebody. 890 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,040 We all know that it sucks. 891 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,280 And it's sad and it's terrible. 892 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,640 And nobody wants to experience that, 893 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,480 but we all have to at some point. 894 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,440 I make it a point to educate, especially 895 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,920 on methods of memorializing the dead. 896 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,680 So in there, I do have different forms 897 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:55,160 of how they would memorialize the dead and past in the past. 898 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,320 So I have a mid to late 1800s Victorian mourning 899 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,360 rack in there that people can look at. 900 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,240 It's from anywhere between 1850 and 1899. 901 00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:08,840 It is-- the frame is also that time frame. 902 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,120 And it's a woven wreath that has like a dove 903 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,920 in the center of it. 904 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,320 It's not made of human hair. 905 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,280 They come in both forms where they 906 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,080 would make these wreaths out of the hair of the deceased. 907 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:29,800 They would weave it into patterns that resemble a wreath, 908 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,560 flowers, and that kind of thing. 909 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,960 They would just use hair as yarn, basically. 910 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,440 And they would create like these intricate and elaborate 911 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,320 wreaths that they would hang in their homes 912 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,400 to memorialize the person that had passed away. 913 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,200 I also have a 1920s version of that, which 914 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,800 would be-- they used to take pictures of the services 915 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,120 or the deceased. 916 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,200 And the one that I have in particular 917 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,440 is a casket. 918 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,920 And it has a bunch of flowers. 919 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,120 And it has a big picture of the person that died, which 920 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,440 was a woman. 921 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,000 And it's just like this big, beautiful, flowery, 922 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,360 elaborate funeral. 923 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,000 And it was so gorgeous. 924 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,320 But that's how they would memorialize the dead in the 1920s. 925 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,560 They would take pictures of that. 926 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,800 And they would hang it on the wall. 927 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,280 The frame is also from the 1900s. 928 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,120 I also have another version that I don't know the date on it, 929 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,080 that it was a memorial photograph for a child. 930 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,760 And it has the lay at of the child in it. 931 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,000 And the hair on the depiction is the hair of the deceased. 932 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,720 So, it has real human hair in the frame. 933 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,120 But, it's just different methods that they 934 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,920 use to memorialize the dead. 935 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,040 And I think that-- I think it's-- 936 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,720 I mean, we're talking about death and dying. 937 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:47,960 So this sounds kind of bad. 938 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,400 But it's kind of fun to educate people on what they did back then. 939 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,200 Because death back then in the late 1800s 940 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,880 is not the same as death as it is today. 941 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,680 Death was very common back then. 942 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,120 Children dying from diseases was common back then. 943 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,760 We don't have that today, or at least not 944 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,080 to the magnitude that they did back then. 945 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,080 Not saying that they got disincentedized to it 946 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,400 because obviously it hurts. 947 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,160 We wouldn't have memorial photographs if it didn't. 948 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,640 But I think that coping mechanisms back in the 1800s 949 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,400 versus today were completely different. 950 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,160 Postmortem photography is another example of that. 951 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,240 I have not gotten my hands on any of that. 952 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:28,840 But that is the plan. 953 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,160 If I can find some true postmortem photography, 954 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,600 that is something that I would like to do 955 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,880 display in the mortuary as well. 956 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:42,000 So on the fence about postmortem photography? 957 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,760 Well, the reasoning behind it is back then in the era 958 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,160 that they did the postmortem photography. 959 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,400 Photographs back then were very, very, very expensive. 960 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,680 And people, it wasn't like it is today. 961 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,400 Like we can snap a picture and go print it off 962 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,440 for 15 cents at Walmart. 963 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,760 For them, it was very expensive. 964 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,200 And it wasn't something that the average person could afford. 965 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,480 So what they would do is instead of taking family portraits 966 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,400 every year that they couldn't afford, 967 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,240 When somebody passed away, 968 00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:18,440 they would take basically family portraits 969 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,880 and they would pose the deceased in poses of a living person. 970 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,080 And they would take basically a last family portrait 971 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:30,080 to make them appear alive as that was the form 972 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,160 of their memorialization of that person. 973 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,600 And see how I love the photos. 974 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,280 No, it's not that I don't like them. 975 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:43,080 It's just in my mind that's not how I want to remember 976 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:43,560 someone. 977 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,920 And that's not the last memory that I want to have of them. 978 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,420 I don't know. 979 00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:50,080 That's the only reason. 980 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,600 And that's valid. 981 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,880 I mean, that's completely valid. 982 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,720 That's not something we would do today. 983 00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,960 I mean, that we do have post-mortem photography 984 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,400 to a degree, you know, moms that lose their babies 985 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,040 when they're born or whatever the case may be. 986 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,600 I mean, you see post-mortem photography mainly in those cases, 987 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,560 but you don't really see it beyond that. 988 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:17,840 But also, I guess, I don't even know how I want to say it. 989 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,640 Back then, because death was so common, 990 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,360 I don't think that they viewed it the same way 991 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,760 that we do today. 992 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,560 That makes sense. 993 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:31,000 It was just, you know, a man, like we lost a family member. 994 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,240 And this is how we're going to remember them 995 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:36,080 because they don't have pictures. 996 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,520 And I mean, we don't have-- 997 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,960 they don't have like 20 pictures from the last 20 years, 998 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,400 you know, or anything like that. 999 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,840 And they're like, this is how we're going to do it, I guess. 1000 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,520 And they can't put ashes in a sparkly little sphere. 1001 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,720 And yeah, it's way different. 1002 00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:55,680 And I think that that's the only reason 1003 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,200 is because we, like in our society today, 1004 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,000 we have the luxuries of being able to just take a picture. 1005 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,520 Like we're recording this podcast right now. 1006 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,560 If something were to happen to me tomorrow, 1007 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,120 you guys could look at this podcast. 1008 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,960 And be like, man, she was a cool-ass chick, you know? 1009 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,360 That is a good point. 1010 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,160 You wouldn't have to take a picture of me 1011 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,720 because you already have a video of me. 1012 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:19,320 Right. 1013 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,960 That does make sense, especially if, say, your five-year-old 1014 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,480 passes away, you back in the 1800s, 1015 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,200 you probably don't have many photos of them. 1016 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,520 You may not have any. 1017 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,360 Because it was so expensive, people just couldn't afford it. 1018 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:32,920 It makes sense. 1019 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,960 And I have pictures of people sitting next to me 1020 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,640 right now, post mortem you know what I mean? 1021 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,600 Like I don't think it was weird back then. 1022 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:49,120 But living now and having a niece who passed it for, 1023 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,680 I'll just shy of her fifth birthday and having a dad 1024 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,080 that passed, like, I wouldn't have taken pictures 1025 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,520 of them post mortem. 1026 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,200 But like you said, I have a ton of pictures of them, 1027 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,920 and that's how I want to remember them. 1028 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,840 So it's just a different time. 1029 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,000 It was a different time. 1030 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,960 And I'm glad that we have the technology that we have, 1031 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,880 and that we don't have to do things like that. 1032 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,840 And I personally wouldn't want to have pictures like that 1033 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,800 of anybody in my family. 1034 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,520 But I guess I understand the reasoning as you do. 1035 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,040 The reasoning and the wise. 1036 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,800 And I think that that part of history 1037 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,120 is fascinating for that. 1038 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,320 Essentially, they went without. 1039 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,480 I mean, they went without. 1040 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:36,200 And that was basically the last moment 1041 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,640 that they had to create something that they could 1042 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,000 remember them by. 1043 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,520 Because I feel like as humans back then, as we are now, 1044 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,840 we're like, man, I hope I never forget the way that they laughed. 1045 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,960 I hope I never forget the way that their voice sounded. 1046 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,360 And then could you imagine thinking, 1047 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,880 I hope I never forget what they look like. 1048 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,080 And just never having that opportunity 1049 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,400 to preserve something as simple as the picture. 1050 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:01,920 Right. 1051 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,200 Because I'm sure, in the 1800s, the average person 1052 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,000 didn't own a camera. 1053 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,400 I mean, my goodness, my dad passed away in 2004. 1054 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,160 And I've almost forgotten his voice, 1055 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,280 because I don't have recordings. 1056 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,840 So I get it. 1057 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:18,680 Yeah, I get it. 1058 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,600 You disilluse that. 1059 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,360 It's not because you want to. 1060 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,960 It just, it happens. 1061 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,480 Because we're human. 1062 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,320 Yeah. 1063 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,040 Our brains can only go so far. 1064 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,640 They can only carry us so far. 1065 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,040 We're human. 1066 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,880 And unfortunately, that's just the nature of the beast. 1067 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,880 We just, we forget things. 1068 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,480 I would recognize his voice if I heard it right now, 1069 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,960 but just trying to remember it's, it's different. 1070 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,240 Did the mortuary start, 1071 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:48,240 do you think having funerals and things in the 1800s? 1072 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:49,520 So yes. 1073 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,360 It originally was built by Lyman Sleeper in 1886. 1074 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,800 The original building was located next door to mine. 1075 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,360 It burnt down in 1915. 1076 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,680 When Sleeper Mortuary first started, 1077 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,520 it was actually called Sleeper Furniture and Undertaking. 1078 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,840 So a lot of the times back in the 1800s, 1079 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,480 you would see furniture stores combined with mortuary services. 1080 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,920 I speculate it's because they made their own cascants 1081 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,480 because they were furniture makers. 1082 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,760 And it was kind of a way to make, I mean, 1083 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,280 if you have the talent and you can sell it, then why not? 1084 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,280 Double money. 1085 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,080 Yeah. 1086 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,360 I mean, they have to feed their families too. 1087 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,320 And so a lot of, if you look into any funeral home 1088 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,400 that was in the 1800s, typically, 1089 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,200 that's what it would be a furniture store plus undertaking 1090 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,480 services. 1091 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,320 So Lyman built that store. 1092 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,280 And then, like I said, it burnt down in 1915. 1093 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,960 So in 1915, the total loss of that store was listed as $20,000 1094 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,960 according to a newspaper article. 1095 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,720 That's a lot of money back in 1915. 1096 00:48:56,720 --> 00:49:01,040 I mean, he was a very well-respected man. 1097 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,240 He was a very talented, talented furniture maker. 1098 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,960 People would travel from all over to get his furniture. 1099 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,840 They would travel to Iowa to get his furniture. 1100 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,560 I wish I could find a Sleeper piece, 1101 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,520 but I don't think that I will ever find one. 1102 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,560 And I wish that I could, because that would be so cool. 1103 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,560 But when he died in 1915, his son, Alan, 1104 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,960 or also known as AR Sleeper, took over the mortuary. 1105 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,760 He had worked with his dad in the business prior to that, 1106 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,760 but he took it over once his father passed away. 1107 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,160 My building was built in 1920 as a replacement 1108 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,080 to the original that was located directly next door 1109 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,280 to mine. 1110 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,640 Alan Sleeper ran it with his son, John, all the way up until 1958. 1111 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,360 When Alan passed away, he was an old man. 1112 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,120 He passed away. 1113 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,120 I didn't find a cause. 1114 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,680 I imagine it was natural causes. 1115 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,840 I want to say he was in his 80s. 1116 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,840 And then his son, John, ran the mortuary after that point. 1117 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,440 So, John Sleeper died at 49 years old. 1118 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,760 It was in 1960. 1119 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,480 He was on his way back from transporting a body from Kansas City. 1120 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,120 And he fell asleep at the wheel. 1121 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,320 And he rolled the hearse, and he passed away in that accident. 1122 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,000 So that is when you see the name change 1123 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,480 from Sleeper Mortuary to Porter, 1124 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,160 or because they bought it from the Sleeper estate. 1125 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,280 It goes through several name changes throughout the years. 1126 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,000 It's honestly kind of hard to track exactly 1127 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,960 what it was called throughout the years, 1128 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,720 simply because you would have different morticians come in and out 1129 00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:32,240 and they would buy stock in these companies 1130 00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:33,360 and they would work together. 1131 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,680 So you typically, like even today, if you look at a funeral 1132 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,200 home that you have in town, typically probably 1133 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,120 has two last names and then funeral home. 1134 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,440 It was no different. 1135 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,960 It was no different back then. 1136 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:51,720 So it was kind of hard to track, but Pat and her husband, Paul, 1137 00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:53,640 bought the mortuary. 1138 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:59,240 And I want to say 1970, 1965, 1970. 1139 00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:01,640 All of the history is outlined on the website. 1140 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,160 I'm just kind of recalling it from memory, 1141 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,200 which sometimes I'm good at and sometimes I'm not. 1142 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,920 It's just a pin. 1143 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,720 But they had it all the way up until 1998. 1144 00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:14,760 Now in the late '80s, early '90s, 1145 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,200 they did combine with another funeral home there in town, 1146 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,040 the Wal-Yokum funeral home. 1147 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:26,240 And they had two locations from the early '90s 1148 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:29,480 all the way out until 1998 when it closed. 1149 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:34,880 And so it served as a mortuary for almost 100 years. 1150 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,920 So there's a lot of grieving that's been in that building. 1151 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,120 I've found some wild stories in the history 1152 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:50,640 of sad stories, just a lot of just, oh my god. 1153 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:51,440 You know what I mean? 1154 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,800 Just things that it sucks, it just sucks, like for families. 1155 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,320 But also at the same time, remembering those people 1156 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,400 is important to me. 1157 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:03,840 Their stories matter. 1158 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,520 Their lives mattered. 1159 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,840 They matter to me. 1160 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,680 And if you come to the mortuary, you're 1161 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:09,720 going to hear about them. 1162 00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:15,080 So because that's one way that we can memorialize them 1163 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,640 and talk about them and remember them, 1164 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,960 because they just, they matter to me. 1165 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,360 So I love that. 1166 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,640 Me too. 1167 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,920 And when I heard that you were doing this, 1168 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,240 I got very excited for you. 1169 00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:32,160 And just for the community, you know, 1170 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:37,360 because I know that you're doing it for all the right reasons. 1171 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,680 Thank you. 1172 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,240 I definitely try. 1173 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:41,200 I definitely try. 1174 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,800 I know that there's stories out there that are very touchy, 1175 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,400 very sad. 1176 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,640 You know, the story of Paul and Pat's children 1177 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,480 and grandchildren, that is a terrible story. 1178 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,680 And I do know that they still have living children 1179 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,600 that live locally. 1180 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,520 And the last thing that I would ever want to do 1181 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,720 is to bring up something that 1182 00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:09,280 that bothers them. 1183 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,560 But also at the same time, they were people. 1184 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:13,520 And they mattered. 1185 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,240 And I think sometimes when people hear these stories, 1186 00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:20,920 especially coming from a business stance that I do 1187 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,800 and what I do with that building, 1188 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,960 I think people may misinterpret the reasoning 1189 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,360 behind telling the stories. 1190 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,760 And they think that there is an ulterior motive behind that, 1191 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,520 which is valid and understandable. 1192 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,440 Totally get it. 1193 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,240 But I hope that in the time that I'm there, 1194 00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:42,240 and if they ever come to see me, that they can see 1195 00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:43,520 that I'm genuine. 1196 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,200 And I tell these stories not because I 1197 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,920 want people to capitalize off of it or sensationalize it, 1198 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:56,760 but because it's more of the 1800s Victorian Mourning 1199 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:57,680 Wreath only. 1200 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:03,240 This is the 2025 version and a verbal one. 1201 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,240 Have you had a medium come yet? 1202 00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:05,960 I have. 1203 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,080 Did it validate anything? 1204 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,840 Yeah, I would say so. 1205 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,600 She-- OK, so this is a very funny story. 1206 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,400 And I can't believe I'm going to tell this on life, 1207 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,760 but I'm going to because it's valid and it's relevant. 1208 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:23,320 And so she was doing Estes up in the flower room. 1209 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,560 When I say she does Estes, she uses the white noise 1210 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,080 to channel information that she's getting, 1211 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,240 not that she's getting that over the white noise, 1212 00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:35,040 but that helps her channel intuitive impressions 1213 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,160 that she's getting that she then says. 1214 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,440 But she can't hear you because she is under Estes, right? 1215 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,840 So there up in the flower room, and she's doing her thing, 1216 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,440 and I'm standing on the stairs. 1217 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,400 And I leave. 1218 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,760 I'm excusing myself to go to the bathroom. 1219 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,800 I don't announce it. 1220 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,800 I just go upstairs and I take-- 1221 00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,920 because both of our children were there. 1222 00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:03,280 I take the kids upstairs and stare down there doing their thing. 1223 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,080 I go to the bathroom and I come back. 1224 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,200 And my friend's husband said, Tori, 1225 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,760 Lyman, told on you because I mean this man identified 1226 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,400 himself as Lyman. 1227 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,040 And I'm like, what do you mean? 1228 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,160 He said, Lyman said you were a pooping in the bathroom. 1229 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,640 And I was. 1230 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,120 I was. 1231 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,720 There's no way she could have known that at all. 1232 00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:28,160 There's no way. 1233 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,960 So yes, I have had validation. 1234 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,760 I'm putting myself out there. 1235 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,400 But I mean, it is because-- 1236 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,000 I love that story. 1237 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,400 Let a girl poop in peace. 1238 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:39,920 Right? 1239 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,920 Why are you spying on me, Lyman? 1240 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:42,400 It's like-- 1241 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:42,920 Right. 1242 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,760 Get out of here. 1243 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,080 Lyman, to go in  the women's bathroom in your mind. 1244 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:49,600 Right? 1245 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:50,280 It's not easy. 1246 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,880 Why are you spying on me? 1247 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,000 But it is validation because I was 1248 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,280 on a completely separate floor. 1249 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,480 There is no way that she ever would have known that's 1250 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:01,120 what I was doing. 1251 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,240 Nobody even knew I was going to the bathroom. 1252 00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:04,760 So-- 1253 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,400 Oh, that's an amazing story. 1254 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,040 You got to keep telling that one. 1255 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,240 I'm pretty told of it. 1256 00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:11,560 Yeah. 1257 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,560 I'm like, here it is. 1258 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,440 We're amongst friends. 1259 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:16,240 Yeah. 1260 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:19,520 I don't think I have any more questions to you, Amy. 1261 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,480 No. 1262 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,520 But I'm so intrigued. 1263 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,480 Like, I could think of more. 1264 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,600 But yeah, I want to come now. 1265 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:29,520 You should. 1266 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:30,520 Kansas City, or-- 1267 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:31,040 I need to. 1268 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,680 --only an hour and a half away. 1269 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:33,680 OK. 1270 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,680 We're going to end this with something fun. 1271 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:36,680 Oh. 1272 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:37,680 Got it. 1273 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,480 Called a 60-second speed round. 1274 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,720 OK. 1275 00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:42,680 OK. 1276 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,000 Amy, do you have the questions? 1277 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,560 I'm right here in front of me. 1278 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,360 I'll go first. 1279 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,280 And then we'll just-- 1280 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,280 these are like rapid fire. 1281 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,000 Rapid answer? 1282 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:53,760 Yes. 1283 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:54,260 OK. 1284 00:56:54,260 --> 00:56:56,620 I mean, it doesn't have to be, but sure. 1285 00:56:56,620 --> 00:56:57,420 Rapid enough. 1286 00:56:57,420 --> 00:56:58,900 Make 'em fun. 1287 00:56:58,900 --> 00:56:59,700 Yes. 1288 00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:02,020 Don't really think about it. 1289 00:57:02,020 --> 00:57:02,860 Yeah. 1290 00:57:02,860 --> 00:57:04,020 How tall are you? 1291 00:57:04,020 --> 00:57:05,660 Five foot. 1292 00:57:05,660 --> 00:57:07,780 What's your favorite ice cream? 1293 00:57:07,780 --> 00:57:11,180 I don't really have a favorite, but it can be chocolate. 1294 00:57:11,180 --> 00:57:12,900 Dog kisses on the mouth? 1295 00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:14,020 Yes or no? 1296 00:57:14,020 --> 00:57:16,220 Hell no. 1297 00:57:16,220 --> 00:57:18,260 Dogs are cats. 1298 00:57:18,260 --> 00:57:19,380 Dogs. 1299 00:57:19,380 --> 00:57:20,860 Books are movies. 1300 00:57:20,860 --> 00:57:22,100 Books. 1301 00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:24,220 What was your first job? 1302 00:57:24,220 --> 00:57:29,820 I was-- it was McDonald's, I believe. 1303 00:57:29,820 --> 00:57:31,900 It was McDonald's or Sonic. 1304 00:57:31,900 --> 00:57:33,300 I can't say that. 1305 00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:35,020 Text or call? 1306 00:57:35,020 --> 00:57:36,660 Text. 1307 00:57:36,660 --> 00:57:39,700 How long does it take you to get ready in the morning? 1308 00:57:39,700 --> 00:57:41,420 10 minutes. 1309 00:57:41,420 --> 00:57:44,100 If I curl my hair, 30. 1310 00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:48,340 Worst subject in school. 1311 00:57:48,340 --> 00:57:50,540 I would say American Government. 1312 00:57:50,540 --> 00:57:51,060 Not a-- 1313 00:57:51,060 --> 00:57:51,560 OK. 1314 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:52,940 I wasn't really a fan. 1315 00:57:52,940 --> 00:57:56,380 Although I do have a bachelor's in Justice Studies, 1316 00:57:56,380 --> 00:57:58,820 but it's different. 1317 00:57:58,820 --> 00:58:00,740 I don't like political anything. 1318 00:58:00,740 --> 00:58:03,260 Like when you're talking about political parties 1319 00:58:03,260 --> 00:58:07,140 and what they each do for it, like so boring, I can't take it. 1320 00:58:07,140 --> 00:58:08,820 I understood. 1321 00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:10,420 I get it. 1322 00:58:10,420 --> 00:58:12,380 So, if you have the hair in your food, 1323 00:58:12,380 --> 00:58:14,300 are you going to go ahead and eat it? 1324 00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:15,500 Or you going to sit back? 1325 00:58:15,500 --> 00:58:16,500 Hell no. 1326 00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:19,220 [LAUGHS] 1327 00:58:19,220 --> 00:58:20,220 That was quick. 1328 00:58:20,220 --> 00:58:22,100 Yeah. 1329 00:58:22,100 --> 00:58:25,100 Especially if it's short and curly. 1330 00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:27,100 I'm out. 1331 00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:28,500 Thank you. 1332 00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:31,220 I haven't even been to the table at that point. 1333 00:58:31,220 --> 00:58:32,620 Right. 1334 00:58:32,620 --> 00:58:34,380 Favorite season. 1335 00:58:34,380 --> 00:58:34,900 Fall. 1336 00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:36,340 Spooky season. 1337 00:58:36,340 --> 00:58:37,340 Ooh. 1338 00:58:37,340 --> 00:58:40,100 Name one of the seven dwarfs. 1339 00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:41,460 Sleepy. 1340 00:58:41,460 --> 00:58:43,500 Favorite movie genre. 1341 00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:45,340 I don't watch TV. 1342 00:58:45,340 --> 00:58:48,540 If I had to pick, I'd say probably horror movies. 1343 00:58:48,540 --> 00:58:49,500 Nice. 1344 00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:51,620 What's your favorite junk food? 1345 00:58:51,620 --> 00:58:52,940 Ooh, milk duds. 1346 00:58:52,940 --> 00:58:56,060 Oh, have you ever had those in popcorn? 1347 00:58:56,060 --> 00:58:57,460 I have. 1348 00:58:57,460 --> 00:58:59,460 I will, though. 1349 00:58:59,460 --> 00:59:00,620 So good. 1350 00:59:00,620 --> 00:59:02,740 Milk duds are amazing. 1351 00:59:02,740 --> 00:59:03,740 Yes. 1352 00:59:03,740 --> 00:59:06,060 Are you typically on time? 1353 00:59:06,060 --> 00:59:06,860 Yes. 1354 00:59:06,860 --> 00:59:07,460 Like I am. 1355 00:59:07,460 --> 00:59:09,940 And I'm understanding the good time. 1356 00:59:09,940 --> 00:59:10,740 I knew it. 1357 00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:12,180 I had a feeling. 1358 00:59:12,180 --> 00:59:14,580 What city would you like to visit? 1359 00:59:14,580 --> 00:59:16,540 New Orleans. 1360 00:59:16,540 --> 00:59:17,820 Nice. 1361 00:59:17,820 --> 00:59:21,100 Something nice that you did for yourself recently. 1362 00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:22,100 I don't. 1363 00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:23,100 I really don't. 1364 00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:25,860 I bought the mortuary in January. 1365 00:59:25,860 --> 00:59:26,860 I would say that. 1366 00:59:26,860 --> 00:59:29,220 That was the big Tory win. 1367 00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:32,540 That's going to be our best answer ever. 1368 00:59:32,540 --> 00:59:34,740 Yeah, but go do something nice for yourself. 1369 00:59:34,740 --> 00:59:35,740 Go pamper yourself. 1370 00:59:35,740 --> 00:59:38,660 Oh, I got my nails painted. 1371 00:59:38,660 --> 00:59:39,660 That's nice. 1372 00:59:39,660 --> 00:59:40,660 They're pretty. 1373 00:59:40,660 --> 00:59:41,660 Thank you. 1374 00:59:41,660 --> 00:59:42,660 Black. 1375 00:59:42,660 --> 00:59:45,620 I mean, matches my black heart. 1376 00:59:45,620 --> 00:59:48,820 I mean, I just got black everywhere. 1377 00:59:48,820 --> 00:59:49,820 Same. 1378 00:59:49,820 --> 00:59:51,620 I like black. 1379 00:59:51,620 --> 00:59:52,620 Pink. 1380 00:59:52,620 --> 00:59:54,420 Pink is a good one too. 1381 00:59:54,420 --> 00:59:56,900 Pink and black together is even better. 1382 00:59:56,900 --> 00:59:58,420 You got that right. 1383 00:59:58,420 --> 00:59:59,420 Correct. 1384 00:59:59,420 --> 01:00:00,420 All right. 1385 01:00:00,420 --> 01:00:04,300 So, Haunted Sleeper Mortuary on TikTok. 1386 01:00:04,300 --> 01:00:08,860 Like all the socials Facebook is just Sleeper Mortuary, right? 1387 01:00:08,860 --> 01:00:09,860 Right. 1388 01:00:09,860 --> 01:00:13,220 It's all just Sleeper Mortuary with the exception of TikTok. 1389 01:00:13,220 --> 01:00:19,500 And the reason why I did that was because I didn't want people to think I was an actual 1390 01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:20,500 funeral home. 1391 01:00:20,500 --> 01:00:24,220 Like, I don't have this stuff. 1392 01:00:24,220 --> 01:00:29,740 Because at first, I'm like, people think that I stay Sleeper Mortuary as a play on works. 1393 01:00:29,740 --> 01:00:33,420 Like I'm talking about dead people like the sleeper dead. 1394 01:00:33,420 --> 01:00:36,300 But it's just an epic surname. 1395 01:00:36,300 --> 01:00:37,620 It's an epic surname. 1396 01:00:37,620 --> 01:00:41,620 Like I had the surname lottery in that regard. 1397 01:00:41,620 --> 01:00:47,300 But I did put haunted on TikTok because I didn't want people to mistake what I was doing. 1398 01:00:47,300 --> 01:00:48,300 I guess. 1399 01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:51,100 I like that you went back to the original. 1400 01:00:51,100 --> 01:00:52,100 Yeah. 1401 01:00:52,100 --> 01:00:55,020 That's where this whole story started. 1402 01:00:55,020 --> 01:00:57,580 That was kind of a tongue twister right there. 1403 01:00:57,580 --> 01:01:00,860 That is where this story started. 1404 01:01:00,860 --> 01:01:06,100 If it was not for Lyman Sleeper in 1886 building his mortuary, we would not be having this 1405 01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:07,900 conversation today. 1406 01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:08,900 I love it. 1407 01:01:08,900 --> 01:01:10,860 It's the perfect name. 1408 01:01:10,860 --> 01:01:11,860 Yeah. 1409 01:01:11,860 --> 01:01:15,220 I went back to the roots. 1410 01:01:15,220 --> 01:01:17,900 Mr. Sleeper, may you sleep in peace? 1411 01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:18,900 There you go. 1412 01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:19,900 Right. 1413 01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:22,620 He's not going to be at the mortuary iand shy on me and the bathroom. 1414 01:01:22,620 --> 01:01:25,940 That's what he's doing. 1415 01:01:25,940 --> 01:01:29,820 But really, it's just all of it together. 1416 01:01:29,820 --> 01:01:35,380 And one of the really cool parts that I really like to wrap, like podcast up with or interviews, 1417 01:01:35,380 --> 01:01:38,540 is the fact that we're sitting here talking about it. 1418 01:01:38,540 --> 01:01:43,660 And you guys are now a part of Sleeper Mortuary history. 1419 01:01:43,660 --> 01:01:45,300 We're part of that story now. 1420 01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:48,700 And it's going to be forever engrained in the future. 1421 01:01:48,700 --> 01:01:54,860 Now you guys are built within the history of the mortuary and I love that. 1422 01:01:54,860 --> 01:01:56,340 I love it too. 1423 01:01:56,340 --> 01:01:57,500 I love it, three. 1424 01:01:57,500 --> 01:01:58,500 Yeah. 1425 01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:01,860 Yeah, that's just an awesome opportunity you come across. 1426 01:02:01,860 --> 01:02:07,380 And I'm glad that you are doing the right thing and keeping it up and letting the history 1427 01:02:07,380 --> 01:02:08,380 be told. 1428 01:02:08,380 --> 01:02:09,380 You can't beat that. 1429 01:02:09,380 --> 01:02:10,380 Thank you. 1430 01:02:10,380 --> 01:02:11,380 Thank you. 1431 01:02:11,380 --> 01:02:12,380 All right. 1432 01:02:12,380 --> 01:02:15,780 Next week will be a non-minisode. 1433 01:02:15,780 --> 01:02:19,500 So we'll meet back here in a week. 1434 01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:20,940 And thank you so much, Tory. 1435 01:02:20,940 --> 01:02:21,940 This was great. 1436 01:02:21,940 --> 01:02:24,060 It's been awesome getting to know you. 1437 01:02:24,060 --> 01:02:25,060 Yeah, for sure. 1438 01:02:25,060 --> 01:02:27,260 I appreciate the opportunity. 1439 01:02:27,260 --> 01:02:30,020 I will talk about this mortuary ever chance I get. 1440 01:02:30,020 --> 01:02:32,660 I love telling the stories and I love meeting new people. 1441 01:02:32,660 --> 01:02:34,940 So thank you for the opportunity of having me on. 1442 01:02:34,940 --> 01:02:37,060 You guys have been a pleasure. 1443 01:02:37,060 --> 01:02:38,060 All right. 1444 01:02:38,060 --> 01:02:39,060 Well, thanks, everybody. 1445 01:02:39,060 --> 01:02:41,060 We'll meet back here in a week. 1446 01:02:41,060 --> 01:02:42,060 And bye. 1447 01:02:42,060 --> 01:02:43,060 We'll talk to you then. 1448 01:02:43,060 --> 01:02:44,060 Bye. 1449 01:02:44,060 --> 01:02:53,060 Thanks for making it to the end and hanging out with us. 1450 01:02:53,060 --> 01:02:56,300 Keep on the lookout for our next episode and stay gruesome. 1451 01:02:56,300 --> 01:03:00,300 [Music]