1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,680 [Music] 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,520 Hello and welcome to our podcast Talk Gruesome to me. 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:19,600 Where we talk about movies and shows that cover true crime, paranormal, and horror. 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:26,000 I am one of your hosts, Dawn. I am currently located in Los Angeles and I think I'm pretty well 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:32,640 versed in the horror genre, especially those 80s classics. A quick fun fact about me. 6 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,280 I have a very extensive crystal collection. 7 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:42,160 Hello, I'm Amy. I'm from Kentucky and my area of expertise for this podcast is paranormal. 8 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:46,960 A few fun facts about me. I'm an empath. I collect old dolls and you know, 9 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:52,640 I've never flown on an airplane. Can you believe that? Now Dawn and I are also obsessed with true 10 00:00:52,640 --> 00:01:01,520 crime. So here we are. Talk Gruesome to me. Welcome in this week. We have someone who is very 11 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:08,560 special to me joining in and that is Eric Freeman Sims. You've heard us speak of him when we've 12 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:14,640 talked about The Knight House, GoblinCon, and this week we couldn't wait to have him on so he 13 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:22,160 can speak for himself here. Yes, but before we get into the nitty-gritty with Eric, hello. 14 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,040 Hello. Let's talk about how did you two and Shannon and how did you all meet? 15 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,400 The Knight house. The Knight House has met so many amazing people the past couple of years. We 16 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:38,160 bought the night house in April of 2024 and Amy and Shannon came out and did a seven of midnight. 17 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:43,760 Because you know, people have to come out and test the night house out before work gets out that, 18 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,240 you know, some places like that is actually haunted because anybody can slap a tag on, 19 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,520 you know, the house, but also to check out the history and see what the history is and if it's worth, 20 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,480 you know, come out filming and things. And so they come out for seven to midnight. We kind of 21 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:02,080 briefly met. I get my tour and you know, I meet all my people that way. Don't necessarily become 22 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:08,400 friends with all of them, but then we invited them out to a event. I tell them come out to the next 23 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,480 public ghost hunt because they never been to one. And I said, just come sit in. You don't have to 24 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,880 buy tickets. You just come sit in. We got room for you. And so they come and sit in on my group all night 25 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:22,000 and we caught some amazing and amazing EVPs and other evidence and they ended up sticking around 26 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:28,240 afterward. The public ghost went over like 11 and the other team that was there was Nightsong 27 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:34,800 Paranormal and co-hosting with me. And so they ended up hanging out afterwards until like three in the 28 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:40,320 morning as well as just all talking in the parlor and hanging out and we all just kind of clicked. 29 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:45,920 And it's just kind of been, yeah, we're all together all the time now since then. So 30 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:53,440 you know if Amy stays up till 3 a.m. something good's going on. Yeah, yeah, that was just sitting on the 31 00:02:53,440 --> 00:03:00,880 couch sleeping this weekend with the blanket around me. Couldn't help it. I mean, you guys get up super 32 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:08,560 early. It's understandable. Both of us. Yeah. But okay, so the nighthouse. Let's get into that. So 33 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:14,960 exciting. I love the house. I've been there. Amy's been there countless times already. Yeah, do you 34 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:22,720 want to go through how you got it? The history of the house. Just tell us all the things. Yeah, so in 35 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:28,400 2024, the beginning of 2024, it's kind of, I've been at the escalator for over 20 years and the 36 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,760 paranormal and I'm a paranormal author and a professor and all this and kind of the dream of the 37 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:40,160 investigators telling you on location. And we were put in a situation in early 2024. I started 38 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:46,400 looking at older houses and realizing that a lot of them are really, really cheap and a lot of them 39 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,280 need saved because they can just be torn down and and you know people don't worry about the history. 40 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,440 They just want to build a new house there and make money. And so we started looking around. We had a 41 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,800 I got my husband on board, which was I was surprised because he's kind of the the money person in our 42 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,200 marriage and he started looking to see how cheap they were and I kind of had a business plan that he 43 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:12,560 liked and thought could work as far as paranormal location. And so we had a criteria, the amount of money 44 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:19,200 that we could spend and we started looking around and it just we found The Knight House and fell in love 45 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:25,200 with it. It was the first place we actually went and physically looked at and I had a dream, a very 46 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:31,200 lucid dream about Eliza Knight telling me that she wanted us in the house. And the crazy thing is 47 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,880 the house was empty like a furniture for the most part. And but me and Rodger and my dream were sitting on 48 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:43,440 the couch in the parlor as the parlor set up right now. And I remember all the chairs and tables and 49 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,120 everything were exactly where they are now. But there was nothing in there when we looked at the house. 50 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,760 And also the first time we looked at it on the way home, it's an hour and a half when we live in 51 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,160 Nashville. And on the way home we talked like we already owned it. We both just thought that way. 52 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:03,280 Just like home does was welcoming. And then I had that dream about Eliza had two dreams about her 53 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:07,760 telling me that she thought we'd be the best here for the history and actually get their history out 54 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,480 because the house had been a residence for two or ten years. And a lot of the town had no idea 55 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,480 about the house's history. They used to do as the oldest house in town and the oldest house in the 56 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:21,920 county. And it's built in 1815. And people just knew it's been there their entire lives and a lot of 57 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,480 people wondered about it. And it's always been a residence. So it's never been open to the to Hopkinsville 58 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,760 public. And our motto kind of from gaming has been we on the house, but it's hobnable's 59 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:38,720 history. And so we wanted to open it up to the public for history tours. And then of course the paranormal, 60 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:45,120 but the paranormal helps you know pay to restore the house and things like that. So we went back and forth. 61 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,840 And it seems like there was intervention from the paranormal community because the owners actually 62 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:55,440 counted their own offer to get us to buy it. So they lowered their own price because they had to get 63 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,680 rid of it. And there was certain stipulations there. You couldn't get insurance on it. You 64 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,280 couldn't get a mortgage because you didn't have a kitchen. And there are all these things that had 65 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:08,080 to be done. So we had to pay cash money for it. And luckily we were in the position to do that. 66 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:13,280 And not that we're rich or anything, but we had that kind of our nest egg. And so this is kind 67 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:17,840 of the retirement plan is you know to fix the house up and eventually sell it hopefully to the city. 68 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,280 You know as a museum and that type of stuff. But then people always ask you know how to know that its 69 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:27,840 haunted. Well for one you figured a 200 year old house is going to be haunted. But also 70 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:33,520 as soon as we bought it I started hearing from people about their stories about seeing things in the 71 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,200 windows. You know people have been in the house about the different things. Have you heard the piano 72 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,760 play itself? Have you heard the ghost parrot? Have you heard this? Have you heard that? 73 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:47,920 So I knew that it was probably going to be you know fairly active. But I didn't realize that 74 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:53,440 it would be as active as it is. It's definitely we figured out it's a special place in the paranormal 75 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:59,840 for just stuff happening all the time. Okay a couple of things. Yeah. 76 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:07,760 That are crazy. Number one the dream crazy. Just the whole thing you just explained and you didn't 77 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:15,600 even go that in depth. Wow if that's not a sign. Yeah. Yeah. And the other one did you ever look at 78 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:21,200 any other houses? We did. We looked at a couple of others and they just weren't I mean they're great. 79 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:26,960 They're awesome but they just didn't feel like The Knight House. It was just from the first time 80 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:32,000 we looked at it. It was just we somehow some way. I don't know we just had that feeling that was ours 81 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,560 already. It was just going through the motions to get the paper are done you know get the keys in 82 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:44,560 our hand. And so until this day it still feels like there's a connection there that you can't like 83 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:49,520 quantify. There's some connection from me and Rodger to that house maybe somewhere in the past 84 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:55,840 past life or something ancestors or something that we just something value it. Yeah. And we just 85 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:02,000 filled I don't know at home there and have from day one. And so it's just a it's a special place and 86 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:07,360 the the the spheres make everybody feel like home like our friend Barbie from Nightsong. She's like 87 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,360 I sleep better than I do home. But all the teams that come in that's one of the biggest things 88 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,120 that we get everybody that comes in and understands but people come in the history tours are like oh my 89 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:22,320 God it's just so welcoming and homey filling. And so it just they make you feel that way but 90 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:28,000 yeah it's just it's been awesome it's been awesome journey so far and all the friends we've made 91 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:34,320 because of the house it's just all meant to be it seems to. I love that it's the first house 92 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,080 that you looked at to another sign like meant to be you know. Yeah. 93 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,640 Yeah. No it's gonna say I had all the criteria so we came up with a criteria. I had to be this far 94 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,920 within it because we weren't planning on moving from our house in Nashville. So it had to be 95 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:52,640 within two hours of Nashville. So it's an easy drive up and back. It had to be of course certain price 96 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,720 but I also told Rodger I said if it already has a name there's probably a history there. 97 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,280 And it was very hard to find a lot of the history online because like I said it always 98 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,640 been a residence there wasn't much online about the house. There are a few blurbs about it 99 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:11,360 but I contacted the historian the county historian Mr. Terminer who had been the historian for 50 years 100 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,120 and kind of got more information about how important the house was and the people that lived there. 101 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:22,080 We're only the seventh owners in two hundred and eleven years so yeah so it's been this beloved house and it's 102 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:27,840 called TheKnight House because the Knights were there for the longest from 1816 to 1945. 103 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,960 For 85 years it didn't most changes and so we stuck with the Knights and people were 104 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:38,400 refer to it still as the Knight/Rodger's house too. The Rodger’s where there from 1948 till 2014 105 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:44,640 but just an incredible history and just and we're still deep diving in the history to find it out 106 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:49,120 that we're finding stuff out every day that I jump in the research stuff on new stuff and new 107 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:56,960 paperwork and yeah it's just it's it's crazy. Wait did you take Rogers and Rodger as another sign? 108 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:02,320 Right right actually here recently I found my last name Freeman. 109 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:07,200 JB's brother actually married a lady named Mary Freeman from Virginia which is where my 110 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:13,280 Freeman family is from so I haven't found a direct connection there yet but it's awfully interesting 111 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,800 that we buy this house and that later on I'll find there's a Freeman connection whether she's 112 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:24,400 an ancestor of me or not, you know it's still interesting. Yeah that's too many signs it's meant to 113 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:30,480 hear. Yeah. It was a couple of visits ago Shannon and I had went to the cemetery to visit them 114 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:36,960 and we were doing our communication and we were getting ready to leave and I was like 115 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:44,000 well we're getting ready to leave but if you'd like to continue the conversation you know where we'll be 116 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:51,920 and it wasn't a few seconds to a minute later it said Eric. I was like yes, we're going to be with 117 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:59,280 Eric at the house so feel free to talk to us there too. They know and I feel like they love you and 118 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:04,480 Rodger. Well I mean every day that I go when we go in there on the weekends I mean I'm up there 119 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,880 either Thursday through Sunday or Friday through Sunday and as soon as I get in there I tell them all 120 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,360 hi, I mean by name you know the four the four that we're pretty sure are 121 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,360 there all the time and ask them how they're doing and ask them take care of the house we tell them bye, 122 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,120 we tell them good night, if I'm going out to get lunch I'm like hey I'll be back in a while. Yeah 123 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,520 if we got a team in the house or or if Amy and Shannon are coming or Nightsong you know always 124 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,680 let them know hey these people come to see you before house or your friends Amy and Shannon and Nightlong 125 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:34,160 are coming to spend the night you know so I started letting them know what's going on you know just 126 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:38,080 and talking to just like their people and they respond that way too so I think that's part of what 127 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,880 makes it a special house as well is that I'm constantly acknowledging they're around and they 128 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,440 follow me around the house especially Jack, when the spirit's wouldn't we can talk about him but he's 129 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,920 my little like my little brother it's weird but he follows me around the house and he'll let me know 130 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,960 he's around and yeah and if you're not paying attention to them they're going to let you know 131 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:04,560 they're still around you yeah yeah I love that wait but can we get back to the parrot like I need to 132 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:10,640 hear more about this yeah so the Rogers family. I didn't find this out until after I actually 133 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:18,160 recorded the the parrot on camera in the master bedroom. We get a lot of noises on one of the cameras. 134 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:23,440 We have eight cameras in the house and they go off for sound and video. Somebody messaged me 135 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,640 and they they knew the Rogers family like it's the Rogers family's there from 1948 to 2014 136 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:35,520 and they asked have you heard the ghost parrot yet and I was like no I have not you've got my attention 137 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:41,120 though and about two weeks later the master bedroom came in off with all its noises and then there's 138 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:46,400 a squawk in there and a whistle and it's definitely a parrot and then come to find out I didn't even know 139 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,960 if they had a parrot I just went off with this person said well we got to meet the daughter of the 140 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,920 Rogers who was in her 70s now and she came back to Hobbesville to visit she came walk to the house 141 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:02,640 and sure enough they had a Macaw parrot for like 60 years and I think it's I don't think it's anything 142 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,760 intelligent I think it's a residual energy it's only get everyone to know but we didn't have people 143 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,240 hear the whistle of it I think Justin the other night thought he heard a whistle I think so I was like a 144 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,960 parrot it didn't sound like a human whistle well we caught the parrot a couple times similar thing 145 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:21,920 happened with the piano that was left that belonged to the Rogers family. It’s a 1938 Baldwin 146 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:27,920 Acrosonic piano and it's up in the parlor and Edie Rogers the lady I was talking about her family lived 147 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:34,080 there until 2014 it was her piano that she might have played piano on back when she was a kid and 148 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,920 somebody mess with me and said have you heard the piano play by itself because apparently that was 149 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:43,440 something that happened. The Rogers lived there and I said no not yet and then I've got a camera on 150 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:48,640 top of the piano that gets kind of the whole parlor and one night I got a notification you know sound 151 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:54,640 detected in the parlor and it was one note, but it's not just the ding of one note it's held out and 152 00:13:54,640 --> 00:14:02,320 sustained until it stopped vibrating, so that was interesting. I haven't heard it since I think they 153 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,400 have had a couple of teams who thought they've heard the piano playing but I haven't caught it on 154 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:14,400 video again and audios. It's crazy how someone will call or send you a message and then you hear it not 155 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:24,000 too much longer yeah like oh yeah we can do that what was it. Like having her at the house what 156 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:31,280 what was it? Was she excited was she happy was she yeah she was kind of very guarded at first because 157 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:36,720 she thought she was living in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and what she was told is that we were turning into a 158 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:42,320 haunted house so in her mind, actors and all that stuff and then we had messed the whole inside up with 159 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,560 you know blood and guts and go where and so we actually had a talked her into coming in into the house. 160 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:52,480 And said no no no no like we've decorated the house a little like 1800s you know no we have nice 161 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,080 furniture and like it's you know everything and so we just come in the house. She was kind of, she 162 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,160 was a little guarded though still walking through but she told us about her family's history 163 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:07,280 luckily I had got to log the house with her older brother PD in 2024 the summer 2024 he was 87. 164 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:12,960 And he was the oldest of the four kids at the Roger's had so he was like 12 and they moved in 165 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:19,200 so he remembered a lot of stuff because they bought it right after the night I don't judge a few years 166 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,200 after the night so a lot of the stuff was exactly something that nights had left it so it was 167 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,120 interesting here in his recollection even though it had been 70 years you know since he'd been 168 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,920 lived in the house and it'd been like about 40 years since he had been in the house so that was 169 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:37,520 that was interesting and then have her come and she's younger you know and she was born they bought 170 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:42,880 the house in 1948 she's born in 1949 so she lived her whole life until she went to college 171 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:49,280 in the house and so she had a fresher a little bit fresher memory and a lot more memories because 172 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,760 she lives a lot longer than her siblings did in the house before they all moved out so it was 173 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:59,520 interesting with her and then one of the things that kind of broke her broke that facade down 174 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:04,880 was that she looked in the piano bench and it was still all of her music in there with the her name on it 175 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:12,080 and also she's a professional artist and there was a sketch there is a sketch in the bench that she 176 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,840 she put it back in there I told her she could have it but her mom bought her a book to teach her how to 177 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,400 draw and that's how she's an artist and there is an original sketch in there from her when she's 178 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,560 starting how to draw with all the like you know crosses and the shapes and stuff and then you race all 179 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:29,200 that stuff and she got a little emotional with that and that kind of broke her facade down a bit and 180 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,840 then I I told her I said I think I have something she might want and down in the basement since we 181 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,840 bought the house. In the windowsill there was a picture of two men who had been fishing and they were 182 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:44,080 holding out their fish from probably the 40s or early 50s I mean there's an old black white picture 183 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:50,000 I knew it was her family so I took it to her and gave it to her and she broke down in tears she said 184 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,920 I've been looking for this picture for 20 years and she said none of my family had it she said I know 185 00:16:53,920 --> 00:17:00,480 it was her grandfather and her father yeah and so it was really neat and she was very happy that it wasn't 186 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,800 the haunted house that she thought it was you know but she very adamantly told us that she didn't believe 187 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:09,600 in ghosts and she tried to tell us how her mother didn't either but I've heard otherwise from other 188 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,760 family members that they very much had experiences in the house when they lived there and 189 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:20,320 and that even though she said she don't believe in ghosts that her mom did believe in ghosts and 190 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:26,400 and we're fond of the the Knights and stuff that were in there so yeah it's really interesting to 191 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:31,840 have that history and those people come along through the house. Unfortunately PD Rodgers he passed 192 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:38,000 away last year of prostate cancer. I didn't have the presence of mind because I was excited to have 193 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,640 them there so actually I should have recorded you know with a voice recorder but in the moment 194 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,680 you're like just trying to soak it all in you know one of the interesting things that the Edith told us 195 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:54,240 though was she asked is have you found any gold bars in the walls or in the floor? No, so apparently 196 00:17:54,240 --> 00:18:00,160 her family found gold bars so at some point time especially with gold being $10,000 an ounce maybe we'll 197 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:07,280 find some gold bars and help us you know remodel the house. Heck yeah that would be amazing. Yeah that's 198 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:13,520 so cool that you got to talk to them I mean that's such a rare circumstance that happens, 199 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:19,920 especially since her family was there for 65 years you know. Her brother her youngest brother 200 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:26,080 Terry lived in the house until he died in 2014, so you know it had been in their family for a long time. 201 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:34,480 The other cool thing is if you go to The Knight House in that front room and maybe some other spots as well 202 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:44,720 but there's a cabinet of things that Eric and Rodger have found yeah around just pieces of plates 203 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:50,800 or different objects that they've found. Yeah, we call it our cabinet curiosities some of it's 204 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:56,720 interesting some of our stories we found that's long ago a bourbon bottle and a Coca-Cola bottle glass 205 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:02,000 and the bourbon bottle has a dispensary stick on it so it's still during prohibition because you had 206 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:07,120 to go to the pharmacy and have prescription to get your booze for medicinal purposes. So, whoever 207 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:11,280 was drinking that and the Coca-Cola bottle I looked up the the serum number knows the front is from 208 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:17,920 the same time so sometime in 1937/38 somewhere around there somebody was was drinking booze and 209 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:26,480 the bottles in the wall so nobody would know. So, that had to be that had to be the Knights too 210 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:33,120 because Ida and Thomas the two youngest nights Ida died in 1938. Thomas died in 1939, 211 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:38,720 and so the house wasn't sold out there for them to 1945 so it had to be I mean that belonged to the 212 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,960 Knights and we don't really have anything to belong to the Knights it was all sold in the biggest 213 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:48,400 state sale in 1945 when it sold out of the family and so it just to touch something they touched 214 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:54,080 something as mundane as like a bourbon bottle and a Coke bottle you know that it was either Ida 215 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,720 you know in their inner older age was getting drunk and saying it's correct or it was Thomas you know 216 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,680 so he died in 1939 so but it was around that time and it could have only been the Knights because 217 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:09,680 there were the only two that lived there have you ever found a piece at you know like a 218 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:15,920 thrift store or around time have you ever found an old piece that might have been there's now the 219 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:21,360 only piece of furniture that we know belong to the Knights is at a historical society and a lady 220 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:26,880 a few years ago a lady from Vermont traced her ancestry to The Knight House to the specific Knights and 221 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:33,760 she had a she told the call the source study and said I have a wash stand my top washed in with the 222 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:39,840 bowl and pitcher that belonged to Ida night. She told them she would donate it to the 223 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:45,280 source study if they pay for shipping so they did and she sent it down and it said the source study 224 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:50,560 that's the only known piece of furniture from the Knights. So we are lucky to have a few pictures 225 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,280 we're lucky to have an original picture of Thomas that was found in the attic. 226 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:01,040 We don't have any pictures of Eliza or Jb Knight who bought the house. We have a 227 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:06,320 John Jr one of their kids the second oldest son we have pictures of him because he moved to Chicago, 228 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:11,280 so there's a lot to picture of him throughout his life but uh he's the only kid that we have 229 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,920 of in Thomas.  Thomas is just the one picture and i'm pretty sure it's from 1883 the year that he became 230 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:21,120 a lawyer but it's kind of it wasn't through a fire and stuff so the edge of charred. I had to frame it 231 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:27,760 so it stopped falling apart. Oh wow. Yeah. Was there a fire at the house ever? We do know that the i don't 232 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:33,760 know not the house proper we do know that the summer kitchen burned down to twice. They really 233 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,640 actually rebuilt it with the charred timbers because the old growth lumber so dense that it just 234 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,680 charged the outside it didn't really mess with the integrity of the wood. The summer kitchen 235 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:49,680 now is a is vinyl-siding in wood where it would have been in brick red brick just like the house before 236 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,720 but it was rebuilt and the original fireplaces in there, so it didn't burn completely down to the ground. 237 00:21:54,720 --> 00:22:02,800 The fire place would so we stand they built stuff waste earlier back even 50 years ago 238 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:08,400 well that’s The Knight Houses two foot thick brick, and that's how they insulated it too. That's 239 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,720 also how they got the structural stability to do six levels. The house is six different levels 240 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,760 and I say levels and not floors because they're not full floors. Right. They’re the depth they're 241 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,000 half the depth of the house but the full width if that makes sense and they stack back and forth for 242 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,720 anybody it's not you know not seeing the house or you know it's not been there, it's kind of a maze of 243 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,560 a house to you and that's kind of one of the things we liked about it was the different levels and it 244 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:35,280 goes from a cellar all the way to a attic. But yeah it's two foot thick brick walls, that's part of 245 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,680 the reason she's been standing for two or ten years too, and winds and you know all 246 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:45,600 stuff so that makes it very very sturdy. But all those bricks were handmade and fired on the property. 247 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:51,440 The first brickyard didn't come into town so the 1830s to Hopkinsville, so those were all hand-done 248 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:57,840 by I'm pretty sure probably to slave people. Digging up clay you know Kentucky clay out of the ground 249 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:05,280 baking and putting it in forms and baking it in the sun or baking it in a kiln. That’s so crazy to think 250 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:11,920 about, they just made them right there on the property and put the house together. Yeah. Yeah, and it 251 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:17,280 it probably took I mean the house we say 1815 that's probably when they started construction and it 252 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,800 probably took a good four five years to build the whole house. That's a lot of brick to do, two 253 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:27,200 fifth brick you know. Then all the all the lumber in the house in the walls are is hand cut 254 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:32,960 there's a couple places like going down the basement you still see the hatchet marks on the wood where 255 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,440 they you know took the bark and stuff off, and then even some of the floor joists when you get out into the 256 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,240 cellar. All they did was knock the bark off, they didn't even level it out you still see knots and 257 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,720 where the you know where the branches come out of the tree and everything is still round there's 258 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,920 no reason to put that effort in when you didn't need to flatten that side of the the boards. Yeah, 259 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:58,880 it's so cool. No sense in wasting time on it. Right. Right. Yeah, wait you have air, 260 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,960 You do you have our conditioning? Yeah. Yeah, air and heat in the whole house. 261 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:10,560 Yeah we have that was there book for you. Yeah. oh okay. The biggest thing we've done in the house 262 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:17,040 probably finished modernizing modernizing the electricity and plumbing so we have three bathrooms 263 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,240 in the house. We've pretty much, we've done all the plumbing we've been running a new 200 foot 264 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:27,280 sewer pipe and here's saying we got to hook up the new water line that goes from the street to the 265 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,800 house. It's already ran as well, it's gonna hook it up. That was a big thing there was that we had to 266 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,520 finish waterproofing the basement. We had to put a hangrail on the front porch the front stairs 267 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:46,880 things like that. Not bad. Yeah, the age  yeah most of the stuff is just cosmetic 268 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:52,400 there's nothing structural or you think that that we have to do it's all just cosmetic stuff. 269 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:59,760 Everyone if you're in the area you have to go look. I mean the furnishings alone oh my God 270 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:05,760 made it so good. Yeah, I have bought everything or been donated all everything it's in the house 271 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,000 so willing and dealing with different antique dealers and becoming friends with them because we 272 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,920 wouldn't deal all the time. Telling them I need a certain piece and we're looking for a certain piece of the house. 273 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:19,040 So I'm trying to get that 1880s Victorian kind of aesthetic with the house, because that was kind of 274 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:25,120 it's 1860s and 1900s like the real big heyday for the house with the Knights. 275 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:33,920 What about the paranormal stuff? I mean when I was there we heard a whistle, yeah more like a 276 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:41,600 human not a parrot. Yeah. But does that stuff happen every day that you're there? Yea, is it yeah 277 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:47,520 yeah it's it's all day every day. I mean I'll be there on myself in your footsteps and 278 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:54,800 knocks and bangs and even voices sometimes from the parlor were upstairs as well and 279 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,920 most of the time you can't really make up what they're saying. A lot of times too my father in law too 280 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:04,320 experience this. Roger both of these things we're in the house working and it's just quiet 281 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,760 and you're just working on whatever you're working you'll hear a man and woman talking to each other 282 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:13,280 and the crazy thing is my father-in-law is 73 and he has constant ringing in his ears 283 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:18,640 as years from working for several years and so if he can hear them talking over the ringing as 284 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:24,480 years they're loud but he's been down he's been down in the cellar working in the tunnel a few times 285 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,880 and and he's come out of there and it's like why are you all being so loud I can hear I can hear 286 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,760 y'all in the basement. We're outside, you know so he's even heard them talking loud but uh 287 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:39,360 yeah it's I mean it's just it's random of course but it's all day every day you never know yet what 288 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:45,840 they're gonna they're gonna do. Jack one of our spirits he follows me around the house so I just feel 289 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,320 him it's just like somebody who's my walks in the room and you know they're there it's kind of like 290 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:57,520 that feeling with him following me around. Yeah and then we have uh Georgie who is Georgie was a domestic 291 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,400 server for the Roger's family. She lived there she got paid. She was a little short black lady and she 292 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,120 got paid to to be the nanny, the cook, the cleaner she basically  ran their household. 293 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:13,600 And from what I understand from talking to PD was that she didn't take anything off his parents. She 294 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,960 ran them even though back then that was kind of unheard of. But yeah,  this little black lady, she's like 295 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,720 you want me to you want me to take care of your kids and all that then I'm gonna tell you what to do. 296 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,800 She's kind of nice lady so sometimes she she'll follow us around and look to see what we're doing 297 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:32,560 and she hates when we leave drawers and doors and things open. Uh she also doesn't like the way we make the 298 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:38,240 beds. We've had a her tell the medium-friend  she wants hospital corners. And im l like 299 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:45,840 not having it darlin, no hospital corners on the beds. That's so funny yeah love her. 300 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:54,720 When people come there for investigations do they typically get good activity or is it 301 00:27:54,720 --> 00:28:00,080 I mean you do because they know you but sometimes with strangers that's not the not the case. 302 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,920 As the majority of the teams get activity I mean you know if that's getting it's sometimes we 303 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,480 sit in the dark like crazy people talking to nothing you know. Things that aren't there people that aren't 304 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:16,240 there but for the most part most teams will have personal experiences and they'll catch EVPs 305 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:21,280 and things like that. You know at least a few to make it worthwhile you know we've only had a 306 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:26,320 couple teams that said they didn't catch anything but it tends to be like the not talking to 307 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,240 anything about these teams but it tends to be the one too like they booked the house for Friday night 308 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,520 but they've been up since 5 am the morning, they're working all day and then they come after you 309 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:39,040 know just kind of low energy teams. There's only been a couple of those out of the 100 teams we had in 310 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:44,640 the house most investigators know you know how it goes, and so a lot of them even they don't really 311 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,360 get much they enjoy the house and being in it and learning the history and all that so 312 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:57,760 well. Yeah and your rates are so good that if you have any desire at all to check out the house 313 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:03,920 it's so affordable in the grand scheme of pricing. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of become our that was our 314 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,440 motto from beginning. Like I wanted and especially being an investigator for 20 years you know I'm 315 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:13,600 in a 70 locations and they just charge outrageous prices and they give you you know a bucket to use 316 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,280 for a bathroom and you're like why does it pay you a thousand dollars for four hours you know 317 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,840 something crazy like that and you're like this is what you get you know so you know that's that 318 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,680 definitely fit into the criteria too. I wanted some of that had heat and air in bathrooms and 319 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:31,840 and all that stuff and so but also I'd rather keep the place affordable and be booked every weekend 320 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,000 then charge a thousand dollars a night and only book one or two teams a month. Because that's all 321 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:43,520 like an afforded, so hopefully our pricing allows smaller teams. For one, I mean I grew up poor I 322 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,240 didn't grow up with money, so like you know try to I think people appreciate that keeping it affordable 323 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:54,400 to where you know three or four people can pay you know $50 spending for dollars a piece and then 324 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,320 they spend the night in the house. You don't have to get a hotel or anything like that, it's all taken care of 325 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:05,760 you know. Yeah especially now I feel like places are getting really really expensive these days and 326 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:11,200 some you can't even stay the night at so there you have to if you're not able to travel home you have 327 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,240 to find somewhere to stay for the night so yeah. Yeah in a decent place you're talking now at 328 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,960 these places cleaning doesn't have bugs and things like you know 80/90 bucks a night for one person 329 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:25,760 you know so yeah so just try to make it affordable for the people can you know taking advantage of 330 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:31,280 the price and come in but yeah we stay. I think partly because of that we stay booked this 331 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:37,120 about every Friday Saturday. Yeah I always joke that I'm bougie, I need a bathroom and air conditioning 332 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:45,840 and I don't want any spiders if possible. Right. I'm way more afraid of the spiders than the spirits 333 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:52,800 around. Some of them little guys get a hold of you, and they're gonna rot your skin off. 334 00:30:52,800 --> 00:31:01,120 Yeah, see you know yeah yuck I'm out on that no thank you and I got bit by a brown 335 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:09,440 recluse ones and I have um I got lucky it was just on my finger and it's got a big old scar but no 336 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:16,880 thank you. yeah especially your Kentucky ones you guys probably have beefy ones. Oh Yeah. 337 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,000 We got some big spiders we do.  I mean I'm sure they're in the 338 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:28,560 basement. I've seen the basement. But like we try to spray for spiders and things like that. So 339 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,280 he tries to tell them to only live down there, he lets them live down there, so it's okay. Yeah 340 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:38,480 that's funny, it's a basement or celler you stay down here. We'll spray everywhere else then. Yeah just stay 341 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:45,360 down here. Yeah I love the basement though. It's like a really cool space. Yeah with the pool table and all 342 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,800 that yeah things are constantly changing too. We actually have a billiard light above the pool 343 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:57,600 table now. So nice. Yeah, so an old billiard light. Yeah I'm constantly buying stuff for the house, 344 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,280 so it's one of the things where you had teams come in two and three times and they're always seeing 345 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,840 new stuff, because there's so much of it for one that you're probably not gonna see everything 346 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:12,000 the first time you come in the house. But I'm always adding stuff too.  But yeah even since 347 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,280 you've been there Dawn like there's so much more stuff in the house. Ooh there is. Amazing, and I 348 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:25,440 wonder if some of that also do you cleanse the stuff before you bring it in. No, no my spirit to work 349 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,360 it out. They're pretty protective though, let me know if something comes with with anything else. 350 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:35,040 I haven't brought anything, also I'm an empath so I kind of have a sense of if something has bad 351 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,200 juju.  The house, we're good or whatever you know I just figured you know as long as I 352 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,920 had a good feeling you know bring your good spirit into the house it's not gonna hurt anything right. 353 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,840 Yeah. Yeah, as long as my spirit is going along with it if not then kick him to the curb you know. 354 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:56,000 You said let the spirits open up. Yeah, yeah I mean I want to like this big spirit royal rumble or 355 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:02,800 anything but you know if they if they get along okay if not we'll move the move the other spirit 356 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:09,840 along. I definitely do not think Jack's gonna take any shit. Oh no no he's so protective it's crazy, 357 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:18,800 it's ridiculous. But yeah Jack, Jack my little buddy, he's uh he's probably strong 358 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,280 he's definitely strongest spirit in the house and he's very protective if something's wrong, 359 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,760 he'll let me never real quick. Even if somebody brings like you know some people come to the house and 360 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:33,760 have their own hitchhikers and in those spirits. They don't stay at the house, they'll go back with whoever 361 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,280 they came with. But I've had even had Jack be like, "hey somebody isnot supposed to be here you know 362 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,840 like they didn't like or whatever. Okay, well they'll be gone when this team leaves I promise, if not we'll 363 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:51,440 get rid of them. Yeah that's so funny. Yeah, and what about is there anything else specific before we 364 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:57,440 move into Goblincon, is there anything else that you want to say?  I can talk about The 365 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:03,360 Knight House right there all the haunting stuff in the history and it's just an incredible place and 366 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:09,760 she's massive too. That's the thing most people don't understand, the scale of the house and pictures 367 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:16,640 it just doesn't doesn't do it justice. I mean it's it's six levels you know it's just an incredible 368 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:22,880 place. It's a place that people have to come and experience for themselves. Even just a history tour, 369 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:29,840 you know coming in the experience that next year we're gonna open it up to a lot more events and things. 370 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,680 We have to have a parking lot, so that's our next goal to get a parking lot so we have more people in the 371 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:39,440 house. More people buy tickets, we can also right now everything has to be scheduled so if you want to 372 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,440 do a history you have to call it head and schedule it. To where if we get a parking lot then, we 373 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,360 just have walk-ins and do tours and things so I'm looking at that and just to see through the house 374 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,320 and just building it up but right now. We're booked, I think I had somebody ask me yesterday about a 375 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,840 Saturday. I think our the next Saturday we have open right now is October, so 376 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,760 we're booking up for the rest of the year. You know  we stay pretty well busy 377 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:11,440 Nice amazing. Yeah I love that. Yeah, we're still going down this track of of I am of research. 378 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,720 We're pretty sure the house  was part of the Underground Railroad. We actually had 379 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:19,680 ground penetrating radar out that sound two tunnels on the property where they should be if it was 380 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,760 underground railroad, so still trying to find more evidence than that may may not you know just 381 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:31,520 constantly researching and revamping the stories that I tell when I give history tours. Nobody ever 382 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,440 gets the same history tour, because I'm not some tour guide just vomiting up what I've been taught 383 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,000 you know, or told to say. I try to get the history right and that's a big thing in mind too like 384 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,080 if I'm gonna tell you a story if it's just a story about the house then I'll tell you this is just 385 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:49,120 a story we haven't proven it you know but when it's real history I want to get it right and make sure 386 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:54,560 dates and things like that are all right the people's names that's so just constantly working on that. 387 00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:02,240 I told Roger it seems like we have our own Kirschwoke Island because like never ending it's just a big 388 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:07,120 you keep digging and digging and digging and see what you find but it comes across interesting things 389 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:12,320 exciting things sometimes. One of the things there was a rumor that I heard from several people in 390 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,640 town that Thomas Jefferson had something to do with The Knight House, and I asked the historian in town 391 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,400 of story.  Mr. Turner and like I said before he's been the historian for like 50 years for the whole 392 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,680 county and he's like nah he can't prove it, like now there's no evidence that I mean why did it 393 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:32,480 I found evidence JP Campbell the first owner of the house we're pretty sure he built it as well but 394 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,200 he was he grew up being neighbors with Thomas Jefferson and so there is a connection there and 395 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,440 Thomas Jefferson loved he don't know he was a draft from an architect so he was constantly that 396 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:46,320 was what he did for fun so he's constantly drawn up plans and stuff for houses so it'd be very easy 397 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:52,240 for JP Campbell to holler at him and say hey I need plans for a house. So we're still looking for 398 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:57,520 online for any plans that we can find that are similar to The Knight House layout, or what we think 399 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,160 it was the original layout. So how awesome would that be to prove that Thomas Jefferson drafted 400 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,920 the plans for the house, you know be amazing. Yeah so things like that constantly going down exciting 401 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:13,360 things my goal was to have the city Kentucky put a placket by the road and send the house part 402 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:24,080 of the underground road. Yeah. Yeah, just to recognize that these people were as amazing as we think they were, 403 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,800 you know and they did good things in the community they they were good people. And everything that 404 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,040 happened with the Knights especially, were great people they kept them themselves a lot but they were 405 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,320 really good people and did really good things in town. So JB Knight, he made his money in real estate 406 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:45,360 even though he was a lawyer and he owned property and stuff all over the country but he teamed up with 407 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:51,040 JP Campbell, the first owner of the house. They're all friends, to put the build the first women's college 408 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:57,040 in in Hopkinsville. All and all of his daughters were the college you know so they're about 409 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:03,120 women's rights and things like them they're pretty liberal family. We love that. Yeah, and they were 410 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:08,560 part of the spiritual movement which shows how much more liberal they were because the spiritualist 411 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,520 the  Victorian area was all the you know the psychics of the fox sisters all that stuff like the 412 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,640 the mediums you know the ectoplasm come out of their mouth and those type pictures all the sands 413 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:24,480 and stuff the kind of spiritual awakening in the early in the late 1800s and 1900s. We know for sure 414 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,840 that the Knights were part of it because the JB Knight put a death or coffin door in the in the dining 415 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:36,880 room, and that was specifically part of spiritualism. Their coffin door is is there were two 416 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:42,240 different beliefs of the spiritualist one was that uh that no living person can enter or exit at that door 417 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:48,560 but it had to stay open for the whole wake and it was just for the dead to pass through so they put 418 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,080 polbearers on the inside now so I passed the casket through the door and then the polbearers 419 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,800 walk around and go out the the main entrance and then it be closed and not used. And so they had another 420 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,360 wake the dining room. The second belief is that a living person can enter the door but all living 421 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,680 people that came to the wake had an exit the door so the deck didn't follow them so there's no 422 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:11,520 reason to have a coffin or death door on your house, unless you're majoring in spiritualism and 423 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,600 that's why you don't see them in the south. You'll you'll find them like well you don't see them in 424 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,080 the Bible belt where we're at, but you'll find them further north in Chicago, New York City, places 425 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,080 like that where spiritualism was huge. Down in New Orleans with voodoo and spiritualism and 426 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:33,200 Savannah was like that. All right let's go ladies of The Knight House, all right i love that. 427 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:41,040 Hello listeners, check back here in two weeks when we finish with part two with Eric. We will 428 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:47,760 be talking about Goblincon, you can actually check it out before that though if you go to goblinconky.com 429 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:54,240 and check it out. It's the weekend of august 22nd and 23rd. 430 00:39:54,240 --> 00:40:05,520 Thanks for making it to the end and hanging out with us. Keep on the lookout for our next episode 431 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:12,720 and stay gruesome!