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 Hello and welcome to our podcast Talk Gruesome to me, where we talk about movies and shows that cover true crime, paranormal and horror.
 
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 I am one of your hosts, Dawn. I am currently located in Los Angeles and I think I'm pretty well versed in the horror genre,
 
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 especially those 80s classics. A quick fun fact about me? I have a very extensive crystal collection.
 
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 Hello, I'm Amy. I'm from Kentucky and my area of expertise for this podcast is paranormal. A few fun facts about me.
 
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 I'm an empath, I collect old dolls and you know, I've never flown on an airplane. Can you believe that?
 
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 Now Dawn and I are also obsessed with true crime, so here we are. Talk Gruesome to me.
 
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 Hey, welcome back. This is part two with Eric Freeman Sims. Goblincon.
 
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 We wanted to do this. When we joked on the last episode, we want to promote it, not recap it.
 
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 We had to squeeze you in here before. Yeah, yeah, so about a month and a half out, Goblincon. That's a,
 
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  meant to be thing as well. I found out. We bought The Knight House in 2024 and we wanted to be part of the community.
 
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 And get out and know people because anybody Hopkinsville and I'm going to Hopkinsville a handful of times my entire life.
 
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 So in the summer of 2024 at the visitor center called Visit Hopkinsville, they have something called Aalien Invasion Day.
 
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 I knew about the Kelly Green Goblins. And so I told Roger, I'm like, let's go meet some fellow weirdos because of course it's going to bring out other
 
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 paranormal people, not just alien people, right? Geraldine was going to be there who I'd never met,
 
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 and Jody, but the Kelly Green Goblins incident happened to her family. She wasn't born yet. She was born in the 70s.
 
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 And the attack of the goblins, the Kelly Green Men incident is a, they happen in 1955, August 21st, 22nd, 1955 in Kelly, Kentucky.
 
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 Kelly is about two minutes outside of Hopkinsville. They will see them. It's about  Kelly up at this point.
 
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 A little bitty farm, family farm, little poor family farm of the Suttons, a spaceship landed, they find solstering landed on the property.
 
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 And the family for hours was attacked by these little three-foot tall creatures.
 
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 And then why it became the Kelly, Kelly Greenman, I don't know because they weren't green. They were like,
 
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 Gun metal gray like silver. But these people were shooting out and shot out there on windows and things shooting at these things.
 
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 And one of them, the creature tried to reach down from the roof and pick them up by the hair and drag them on the roof.
 
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 But they shot at these creatures for hours. They finally escaped the house, went into the Hopkinsville and got the sheriff.
 
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 And the sheriff came out in the middle of the night, like midnight. I think it was like 11 o'clock when they finally get away from these creatures.
 
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 The sheriff didn't see any sign of the creatures, but he saw where the Suttons had shot all these shells,
 
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 you know, these rounds at the aliens, at the goblins. Well, they didn't know what they were. They were just these little things that they,
 
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 you know, were trying to attack their family. He didn't have any choice but to believe them. I mean, because
 
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 Glenny Sutton, who was the mom, she was a widow, but she on the farm, she was very staunch,
 
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 Christian lady, she did not allow moonshine or anything like that in her house on her property.
 
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 They weren't doing any moonshine on the property. So she didn't put up with it either.
 
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 The sheriff also said to him that have not been drinking you know, or anything like that. So he didn't have any reason not to believe them.
 
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 Although he said he didn't know, it may have been something wildlife that they were attacking.
 
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 So the sheriff leaves, as soon as they start to get calmed down and try to get some sleep, the creatures attack again.
 
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 They attack them for another few hours till the sun comes up. When the sun comes up, these creatures disappear and they're fine,
 
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 Saucer spaceship disappears. Never be seen again to this day. But where that flying saucer landed on the property,
 
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 nothing would grow, nothing grew for years in a big round spot, no grass, nothing. It's a big round dirt spot.
 
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 And for I know, it's nothing was still growing today, let's say, but it's a private, it's primarily owned by other people now.
 
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 That was a, that's a worldwide known incident because it was right after Roswell, Roswell's 1947.
 
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 It's 1955 during the age of the flying saucers and all that stuff and then people's interest in UFOs.
 
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 And so it's just been a widely known story. It was one of the first stories that kind of went national
 
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 because in 1955, when you started having your TV stations and TV channels like your national news and things.
 
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 And so it kind of went viral for its day, if you want to say that, all over the country.
 
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 So they started celebrating it in Kelly, Kentucky and then COVID came along and stopped them celebrating for a few years.
 
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 Well, the city of Kelly sold their land that was their fair rounds where they had the Invasion Day.
 
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 Well, they only claim to fame to make money for those little towns, Alien Invasion Day.
 
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 And they used to have thousands of people, I mean, they were doing it from Friday-Sunday and have thousands of people come out.
 
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 Well, they sold it to a church during COVID to make money.
 
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 And the church after COVID said, "You're not doing anything with aliens or our property."
 
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 Nothing with a paranormal. We don't believe in other, it's demons, you know, as we hear.
 
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 Right.
 
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 And so Amy Rogers, who is the head of visit Hopkinsville, she decided to take it over in Hopkinsville.
 
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 So she did the Kelly Green Man days or the Alien Invasion Day in 2024.
 
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 So me and Roger went to meet Gerladine, who's written books about it into her family, like I was saying.
 
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 We met Amy and just clicked and enjoyed the Alien Invasion Day.
 
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 It was a lot of fun. There was Invasion Day or other paranormal people.
 
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 Amy apparently looked me up and saw that I do paranormal events and have done for years.
 
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 And I've done some bigger conventions and things like that.
 
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 Plan them and you know that type of stuff.
 
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 So she called me one day and said, "I have this crazy idea.
 
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 If we can pull it off next year while we do this huge convention around the Hopkinsville Goblins."
 
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 And I said, "All right, how much you pay me?" Basically.
 
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 No, I'm joking. We worked out a payment and she had to go through a whole bidding process and all that
 
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 stuff and I won the bid. So we did Goblincon last year for the first year, the 70th anniversary.
 
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 And it was pretty successful for the first year. We also had competition with Creepycon
 
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 In Lexington, which brings tens of thousands of people to Forever, which is a horror convention.
 
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 And they have all the horror movie stars and things like that. So this year we're not competing with
 
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 that because this year it's actually on the weekend that is the 71st anniversary and it's August 22nd,
 
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 23rd. We have two full days of speakers. We have 60 vendors. We have a puppet show. It's called
 
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 Kentucky Friendless Cryptids for the kids. They're going to do it twice on Saturday, 22nd, Muppet Style
 
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 Puppets. That's about Bigfoot and the Goblins and all these other cryptids. We have a whole
 
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 kids play zone outside with a water slide, bounce houses, games, all that stuff. And just a big
 
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 celebration of the weird, the paranormal in Kentucky because Hopkinsville is also where Edgar Casey is
 
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 from, which is a sleeping prophet. Also, Land between the Lakes to get a lot of stories about big foot and
 
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 dogman Lame Twin Lakes. So that part of Kentucky, Western Kentucky is just weird. And so to bring
 
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 all that together into the UFO and paranormal expo, it seems like it was some people wanted.
 
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 They didn't know they wanted it until it happened last year. This year we've got a huge response.
 
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 We're full on vendors now. We have the parapro, paraprecool your museum of haunted objects
 
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 coming from Texas. And it's a 30-foot trailer with them inside of all these different haunted
 
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 objects. And Nicole and Damien who run it are going to be speakers. They're going to talk about haunted
 
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 objects on stage. Amy and Shannon are going to be, The Paranormal Couple are going to be speakers
 
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 as well, talking about investigating. Because they kind of do it differently than a lot of
 
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 teams and people. And they're very, they're very good at playing off each other with the
 
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 investigating. Or even other investigators like we just click investigating like our styles just fit
 
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 perfect. I'm a little bit different. So I'm bringing a little different to the table. But
 
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 we investigate very well together. And I'm a speaker, talking about Small Town Hauntings and
 
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 Legends of Tennessee and Kentucky. So a lot of myths and legends that people have never heard of,
 
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 hauntings and the history and things like that. We have Keng Gerhard who is a cryptosologist and
 
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 for people have watched the shows on TV. He's been over on and over 100 shows. But he's the monster guy
 
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 that wears the black cowboy hat, leather cowboy hat. He's coming too, Tim Swartz. Tim Swartz is
 
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 a talking head on Ancient Aliens. A lot of the paranormal shows. These are, they're all great
 
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 guys. They're all great speakers. This year we have Dave Schrader who has been on the Ghost Guys,
 
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 been on a lot of the paranormal shows, the Holster Files and things like that. He‚Äôs been around the
 
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 paranormal world for a while, you know who Dave Schrader is. Yeah, a lot of Geraldine, like I said,
 
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 it happened to her family. She's gonna get up and tell the story, the in-depth story.
 
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 I just get the cliff notes of what happened. But it's a lot more in-depth and she's found out a lot more
 
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 stuff that was going on around that time with other people seeing flying saucers in the community
 
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 and other incidents that happened that weren't reported  like her family was.
 
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 One of the things that we're really excited about is we have David Eller who is a bigfoot researcher
 
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 and cryptozologists and Ken Gerhard. They're going to do an old presidential style debate on stage.
 
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 So Ken Gerhard believes that Bigfoot is flesh and blood. David Eller thinks that Bigfoot's super
 
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 natural. So they're gonna have a debate and say their cases of who's right, who's wrong with the
 
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 audience make up their mind. So a lot of awesome things. This year's the 40th anniversary of
 
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 the movie Maximum Overdrive, Stephen King movie, where the truck comes to life and they
 
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 trap Emilio, as an always people with this truck stop. And we have the big green goblin
 
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 that is on the kind of the leader truck. It's actually coming to Goblincon. It's the real one from
 
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 the movie. So a lot of fun stuff. We have some amazing vendors doing all different kind of art and
 
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 different kind of cryptos stuff and t-shirts. Yeah, it's just a two days pack full of like I said,
 
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 speakers and workshops and things. So a lot of fun. And again, Eric keeps these prices so low.
 
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 I go to these types of creepycons, like those types of conventions. Some of these tickets are getting
 
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 up there like $50 a day. You can go for 10 bucks. That's unheard of. And kids 12 and under are free.
 
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 The luxury VIP pass is only 150 bucks for the whole weekend. It's gets you everything.
 
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 Also, one of the things that we started from the get-go is none of our speakers are allowed to
 
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 charge for autographs or pictures. So you're not coming in and spending extra money
 
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 like that and getting nickeled and timed because if we're paying the speakers and we're paying for
 
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 their travel and their hotel and all that, they're not going to charge to sign autographs. That's ridiculous to
 
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 me. We're already paying you $1,000 to be here. You know, it was just fine. That's how they make
 
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 their money. So they have to sign a contract and they won't charge for autographs and pictures.
 
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 Some of these bigger conventions and not talking to them like about anybody, but it may cost you
 
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 $25 for an autograph and another $10, $15 for them to take a picture of you with your own cell phone.
 
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 You know, which I just find that ridiculous. If you're already being paid to be here, why am I going to let
 
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 you charge them more for autographs? So our speakers are very accessible. And if you go up and talk to, get
 
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 autographs, picture with them, talk to them about paranormal, whatever you want to talk to them about,
 
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 they're very accessible. And they are all great to, I mean, our line of panel was awesome
 
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 talking to everybody and people got to go and pick their brain and see them get up and talking
 
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 on stage as well. But yeah, in 12 and under a free, we're lucky that Visit Hopkinsville is a
 
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 non-profit. So we can keep the prices low and what we take in is with vendor fees and tickets,
 
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 the VIP that pays for Goblincon. And any money left ever goes right into Goblincon for next year.
 
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 It's not going into anybody's pocket. I mean, of course, we all have to get paid. Like, you know, they're
 
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 paying me because it's a job, you know. And so I'm the only employee actually that gets paid for
 
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 Goblincon because Amy and Ginny, who are the director assistant director for Visit Hopkinsville,
 
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 they get paid through Visit Hopkinsville, right? Because that's their job. So I've even,
 
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 not in two-month home, but I've even severely discounted my services of what a event coordinator
 
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 would charge, but just because I love doing that. And it takes a year, it takes a whole year to plan
 
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 this big thing. But last year was very successful for a first year for sure. We sold 800 something tickets,
 
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 which is crazy for a first year convention expo. And this year we've already outsold. We haven't
 
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 pre-sold 800 tickets, but we've outsold the pre-sold tickets from last year already. So nice.
 
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 Yeah, and we had people come last year. We had people come from Germany and then all over the
 
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 United States to come. This year I've heard we have people from Canada coming, people from other
 
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 countries coming this year as well. So it'd be pretty cool. We have a vendor coming from Canada,
 
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 coming all the way down to Kentucky to be a vendor Goblincon. That's neat. That's neat.
 
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 Hey, it sounds worth the travel, especially because what you just described, there's no up charges
 
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 for all this other stuff. Yeah. Yeah. The only thing you'll have to pay for is if you want to take
 
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 a picture with the big goblin, green goblin head from the movie. That's 20 bucks, I think, it's what he
 
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 charges. But it goes to him building a horror memorabilia museum, but it's not just a big goblin head.
 
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 He has a lot of museum stuff there with him that you can go through and see, but we have, like I said,
 
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 our vendors are amazing. We have wood art, metal art, we have people that paint, you know, draw all
 
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 the different cryptids and stuff. We have some taxidermy people that make weird things with taxidermy.
 
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 Nothing crazy. It's kid friendly, so there's no cat fetuses in jars or anything. We had to tell
 
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 that person thank you. But yeah, the green jerky company, which does cryptid jerkeys.
 
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 We have authors like Cyn Shrader Hill. Of course, I have a booth with my books, let‚Äôs see who
 
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 else Creepy Coffees. They do a paranormal themed coffee. I'm excited to check out their coffee.
 
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 We have some paranormal teams, there's a paranormal podcast. Yeah, like the Scented Possum does
 
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 does air freshenes for your car and made out of wax. And they have Bigfoot and
 
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 Mothman and all this different stuff. So yeah, some really cool, cool places. Of course, we have some
 
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 crossover with with having some comic book people as well that have the secret base and some of
 
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 those that sell comic books, but they do so, you know, paranormal themed comic books. One the cool
 
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 things we have this year that I wanted last year, we have Tattooed City that's coming with two
 
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 artists and they're going to be a flash art. I think they're going to do 25 bucks a piece and you
 
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 can pick between however many small pieces that they put it for the flash art. But it will all
 
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 be paranormal or Goblincon themed flash art. So you can get your  tattoo at Goblincon,
 
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 which I think I haven't had a tattoo in a long time, but I think let's get a tattoo. Yeah,
 
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 but it'll be like sitting in 20, 25 bucks for, you know, let's get a tattoo. That's so fun.
 
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 So yeah, just we even have a chocolate tier coming. He does all this amazing,
 
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 they're moonshine chocolates. They do all these amazing chocolates. We have crystal vendors and
 
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 all that stuff. We've got psychic medium. We have a photography. Yeah, with the
 
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 besome brooms that she makes for different intentions and blessing your house, things like that.
 
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 We have other haunted locations like Rose Mont, Octagon Hall, they'll have booths. Yeah,
 
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 I just I'm looking at the list here. All these different all these different places, but yeah,
 
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 pretty neat. Yeah, it sounds. Yeah. Amazing. So if you even have to drive a couple of hours,
 
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 it sounds so worth it. Get in your car August 22nd. It's going to be a blast. Yeah, and also the
 
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 the Holiday Inn and Suits right next door to  the convention here. They actually
 
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 have special rates for Goblincon. So if you do come and need a hotel room, you can give them a call
 
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 and tell them that you're coming to Goblincon and they'll give you special rates for the 21st,
 
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 I mean, for the 21st, 22nd. Make it a weekend. Do a little trip. And there's lots of other things
 
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 in Hopkinsville too. There is lots of other weird things to do, but also cool things to do.
 
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 Really good restaurants like Camo Caravan. Really good restaurant. Don't even get me started on the
 
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 dyno that they serve. Okay. That's right. Yeah. I forgot you. I forgot you went with this before
 
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 you left. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, there's a picture of Dawn laying the chalk out lying on the
 
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 ground. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Camo Caravan is one of my favorite paces to eat at. They give you like eight
 
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 meals I swear to God in one sandwich. It's like a foot. I don't even know how big it is. It's
 
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 ginormous. Yeah, you can get your meal served to you in an old, old, tiny, metal lunchbox.
 
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 Yeah, with a dinosaur. Or a dinosaur. Yeah, the dinosaur. Yeah, Hopkinsville is not lacking on places
 
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 to eat. No, no. Good. Yeah, and there's always festivals and things going on other than
 
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 Goblincon. There's the museum is awesome. Yeah, just an interesting, cool place. Really laid back
 
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 dtown too. So people are nice and laid back and yeah, I do have a good time. You can go see
 
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 Edgar Casey's grave. Yeah, yeah. And you go to the museum and see his like real desk and a lot
 
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 of his furniture and artifacts and things. I still need a Edgar Casey shirt. So I've got to go back
 
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 to get my shirt. Yeah, we need to do we need to plan on doing the Edgar Casey days next year.
 
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 Yeah, they have a whole week where they do Edgar Casey stuff. Yeah, last time we were at the museum,
 
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 they just didn't have my size. So I do need to go back in there because I want to Edgar Casey shirt.
 
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 I need one to. Yeah, you go to a great regular. Yeah, you need a shirt. Yeah, well The Knight House is
 
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 in front of one of his past residence. He just wasn't as  well known at that time. Yeah,
 
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 he had in the house of across the street. Yeah, it's not there anymore. There's a sidewalk there.
 
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 Sadly. Yeah. Yeah, that's a cool fact. Yeah. And a Goblincon will have all kind of swag
 
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 shirts and things and we try to do everything cheap. Yeah, that's my thing is affordability. So
 
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 we'll have all kind of Goblincon swag magnets and keychains and shirts. Even Jane has stuff.
 
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 Yeah, Jake the paranormal pooch. He's got his own merchandise now. He does. So cute.
 
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 And people can come meet us at our booths, Amy and Shannon. See us speak, but also can meet us and
 
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 chat about the paranormal and pick our brains. Yeah. We've all been doing it for a long time. So
 
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  we love people to ask questions and try to stump us. I get that every once in a while.
 
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 Especially the Bigfoot crowd likes to stump me. I'm like, well for one, my fourta goes,
 
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 but I'll tell you what I think about it. Oh yeah, we can talk about it. Yeah.
 
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 Should I try to stump you today?
 
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 Too late. Well, we talked about The Knight House and Goblincon. I mean, I've got a new book coming out as well.
 
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 That‚Äôs coming up next. That's so weird. That was like, we only had three topics. That was the next one.
 
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 Strange Chapters and Stories from a Haunted Life. People, I've been asked by friends for four,
 
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 five years now, especially since I put out my first book. My first book I published last year called
 
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 Small Town Haunts Legends of Tennessee. And it's more like kind of a reference book for
 
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 haunted locations and ghost stories. So, and I'm still working on that series of the next ones
 
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 going to be Small Town Haunts Legends of Kentucky. It's very kind of clinical of like, you get the
 
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 history of the town and the house or the location. And then I tell you the ghost stories, right? And
 
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 the ghost stories are like a magnumation of all the different stories kind of cohesively put into
 
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 neat stories. And so like it's like it's more of a reference book. It's where I've been having
 
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 friends of mine asked since I've been doing this for another teenager and I have so many stories.
 
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 They wanted me to put my own stories down somewhere because it's interesting because I'll start telling
 
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 stories and I'll notice it. Everyone there's a big group around. Everybody's slowly quiet. And now
 
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 just listen to me. It's my story. Are my story's really fascinating. So I decided in December last
 
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 year. I was like, I'll just go ahead and write this book. So it's a memoir which I hate that word.
 
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 It sounds so fancy. And my book is not that fancy. But a memoir is where you pick and choose what you
 
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 want to talk about with your life and autobiography. You kind of write everything from the beginning . The way
 
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 that I write strange chapters is that there's a chapter of like personal stuff of my life in
 
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 chronological order. And then there'll be a chapter that's about a specific location and all the
 
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 things have happened in that location. And the interesting stories. And then it goes to the next
 
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 chapter. Like I said, we'll be another personal chapter. But there's a lot of personal stuff in there.
 
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 But it's about how the paranormal has always been part of my life from the early I can 
 
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 remember. There's always been some paranormal component with me being an empath. My mom being an
 
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 empath and just always being surrounded by ghosts in my house being haunted. Even though there's no
 
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 reason for it to be haunted. You know, but my house here is haunted because I bring stuff in, you know,
 
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 like the lighthouse in the dark. Yeah, but yeah, strange chapters. And I feel like I've been through,
 
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 I called it strange chapters because I feel like I've been through all these different phases of my
 
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 life. I feel like I've lived like four lifetimes. I was in a medical field for 20 years, but also worked
 
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 in music business for a long time doing sound. I Djed karaoke as a bartender like, you know, not
 
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 jump in job to job because if you work on ambulance, you're going to have more than one job because they
 
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 don't pay EMT's and medics enough. And so while I was, you know, five days I was a medical
 
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 and ambulance during the day and then at night I'm bartending and DJing karaoke and doing trivia.
 
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 But all these incredible things that have happened my life because of the paranormal and meeting
 
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 incredible people like you all too. And you know, if it wasn't for the paranormal, I'd never met any
 
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 one. And so, you know, Barbie and Buffy and Veron and all them, Synque and Chase from 
 
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 Nightson Paranormal and Justin and Caleb and yeah, I was incredibly, we all that I know that we were really
 
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 close friends. It's been because of the paranormal. And The Knight House and that incredible experience,
 
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 you know, and so yeah, I just hope the crazy stuff that's happened because of the paranormal. And
 
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 like we even talked about The Knight House, like there's a paranormal component of us getting the house
 
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 because of the paranormal because they pushed, you know, they did something on the other side to make
 
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 sure that we got it. But also, I think there's a, I've had a few instances where I think I'm still a lot
 
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 of because of it too because of being warned about stuff and being like, man, I'll stay home today.
 
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 Right. Right. We got a gut feeling and you know, there's a couple of times where we didn't listen to that
 
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 gut feeling and there's stories in the book too where something horrible happened nobody died, but horrible things
 
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 happen, you know, listen, when they kind of kick in the ass and say, hey, don't do that, you know,
 
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 and you don't listen to them. A lot of locations I've been to like, Rose Mont, Thomas House,
 
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 Bruche Mountain, just yeah, lots of different places, especially Kentucky,
 
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 Intonacy, Olson, Jail, just incredible things that just crazy things that have happened. But also
 
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 some funny stuff that shows the lighters side of the paranormal. It's not all, that all serious. Most
 
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 of my stories aren't serious anyway because I think even a paranormal taking themselves way too seriously.
 
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 We're gonna have some fun sometime. Yeah, agree. That's definitely our style. There's time for fun always.
 
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 Oh yeah. And I threw a chapter in there about what I thought about equipment and explaining to
 
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 people where some of the equipment comes from and things like that. So people are educated about why
 
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 we use EMF or you know, what a Rempod does and things like that. So a little bit of education there,
 
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 but a lot of personal things too, like I said, that's very difficult for me to write.
 
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 What just fell? Is that your cat or something, Amy? No, it was my charger.
 
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 Oh, okay. I was like, who's got a ghost over there? It was me. Oh, okay, talk. I got kind of excited
 
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 that maybe something in Eric's house fell. No, it was just me. We're good. I wouldn‚Äôt be surprised, but no,
 
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 wasn‚Äôt me. It's good that you listen though when they're like, hey, no, not. Yeah. Yeah.
 
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 Do I? There's one time that, well, I did listen, but my husband didn't. This is a couple of years after
 
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 he first started dating. I was trying to ease him into the whole paranormal empath thing because he
 
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 really didn't believe in the paranormal. He definitely does now after 20 years of me for sure.
 
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 We were gonna take a weekend, like a long weekend trip to Chattanooga. It's only a couple
 
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 of hours from us. It's not that far of a drive. And we had a hotel room and getting good at it. There's
 
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 like Tennessee State Aquarium. There's really cool stuff that we can try to do. The mountains
 
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 you look at. The mountains are rock city and all these cool stuff. I just had the major gut feeling that
 
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 we did not need to leave that morning. I'm talking about like, I was being kicked in the stomach by the
 
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 paranormal and felt like I was going to pass out and like, no, we do not need to go. And I knew
 
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 physically there's going to wrong me that it was the paranormal being like, nah, that thing's
 
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 going to happen. And just that feeling of doom of something bad is very bad. And he's like, I just
 
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 imagine, I shouldn't believe in the empath. So we get on the interstate and we're in his, he had a
 
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 a little Ford Ranger. So he's driving and he slowed down because the raining really hard. And this
 
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 tractor trailer came up the side on the left because tractor trailers, they don't
 
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 hydro plane unless it's really bad. Well, that tractor trailer got the ass end of our truck loose
 
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 and sort of hydroplaning and the nose went into the tires of the tractor trailer,
 
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 that spun us around, we flipped them on our side, busted out windows, and we slid backwards until
 
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 we hit rock wall at 45 miles an hour. And it peeled the bed of the truck like it sardin can,
 
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 the bed of the truck didn't exist anymore. The crazy thing is that whenever it happened,
 
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 we're flipping around my seatbelt broke. But Roger seatbelt broke the back of my seat broke. When his
 
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 seatbelt broke, I saw it all in slow motion and reached over to slam to back down the seat and held
 
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 him in the seat until the truck stops flipping around. The back of my seat broke, I went back and I
 
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 hit my head on the back windshield. Luckily, we were both okay. There's a bunch of bruises, but
 
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 after that, he listens now. So for the next 15 or more years, he's listening. When I said, no,
 
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 I don't know how to get feeling about this. Now he listens to his own feelings on the way back
 
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 from The Knight House on Sunday morning. We drove separately because Roger came up after work on Friday.
 
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 And it was kind of rainy off and on in the interstate. And I got on the interstate. I felt fine about it.
 
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 But he said he just had a feeling he didn't need to take the interstate. So he took the backroads home.
 
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 Better safe than sorry. Yeah. Which we got home safe. He got home like five minutes after I did. So
 
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 but yeah, he listens to his own intuition now and he definitely listens to mine. He's seen
 
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 crazy things first hand. But he will not for the very, and this is because of Amy and Shannon and
 
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 Nightsong Paranormal and one all them because he loves all of them that he went to his first first investigation.
 
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 He didn't investigate, but he went to the first location that he's ever been in 20 years.
 
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 And that was the Thomas House because we're going to stay a weekend. I had been in Thomas house
 
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 for 15 weekends over the past 10 years and done lots of things with him. He's never gone with me.
 
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 And then all of them go and he's like, okay, I'll go. We had such a good time. Yeah. We're doing it again in September.
 
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 What was it? What was it the Murfreesboro weekend? He said we all need to go.
 
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 Yeah. Yeah. Till weekends, yeah, we were there for four of the July weekend, we went to Murfreesboro 
 
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 Tennessee to hang out with Barbie and Buffy at Barbie's parents house. That was a big adult
 
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 pool party. They could bring your own pool stuff. It was like, we had a blast. We were there all
 
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 weekend and it's like fun. But yeah, we went to the slaughter pens.  Amy has pictures of them.
 
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 And I put some them here of what they call a slaughter pens. And we're just there in the middle of the day.
 
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 But it was like really active. And he's even walking around talking about energy and shit. So he's getting
 
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 more into it. I still don't think he, I don't think he'll ever investigate with us or anything. But he'll
 
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 sit and watch. You know, he'll go, he apparently wants to go with this location now because it kind of sees
 
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 with The Knight House what we do and like going to Thomas house, he kind of, because he's a huge history
 
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 buff too. That's I mean, that's part of the reason I got him to buy into The Knight House was him being
 
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 into the history. And he sees, he's seen over the years that most of what we do is history. So now he's
 
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 like, there's a location that he's interested in. I'm like, I'm trying to get him to Thomas House for
 
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 years because it's a bed and breakfast. So we stay there all weekend. We get there on Friday afternoon,
 
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 we stay until Sunday. We get fed dinner and breakfast both days. And so you get fed dinner
 
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 Friday night and the breakfast Saturday morning and the dinner Saturday night and the breakfast
 
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 for Sunday morning. And I'm like, you need to go and everybody has their own room with their own bathroom.
 
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 And yeah, he never would. But he wanted to hang out with Jake. Yeah. But unfortunately, Jake
 
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 didn't get to go. Yeah. Oh, shit. That's right. Yeah. Just kidding. Yeah. We'll have to do
 
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 a whole paranormal episode with you sometime that we just talk about locations, equipment,
 
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 all that stuff. Strange Chapters is they can go to The Knight House's website and click on merchandise.
 
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 It's on presell there right now. Go get it. It's also on Amazon. But if you order it from me,
 
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 I can personalize it and sign it for you. And the money goes to me, the author instead of the big chunk
 
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 going to Amazon. They take a lot more than if i sell it myself. So that's any author. So try
 
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 to any author if you want to buy their book, please try to buy it from them at a convention or anything
 
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 like that. But the strength chapters will be out August 4th. And my book, ‚ÄúSmall Town Haunts
 
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 and Legends of Tennessee is on Amazon now. If people buy, it's also on The Knight House website.
 
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 And I can personalize it as well. And when you make your way to The Knight House to visit,
 
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 it's available there as well. Yeah. And they're actually five dollars cheaper at The Knight house.
 
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 Oh, and they'll be at Goblincon. Yes. Yes. I'm trying to get a Kentucky book done before
 
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 Goblincon. Oh, if that's going to happen or not. But it's a lot. I got a lot going on. So
 
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 that's like three weeks away, four weeks. Yeah. Yeah, four weeks. I've already started writing the
 
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 Kentucky book. It's not like I'm starting just starting now. Like the whole legend section is written.
 
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 I just got a, yeah, I probably get another hundred fifty pages. If I sit down and do it, take the time
 
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 to do it. I can have it done. But I don't know if I have the time to do it between everything else going
 
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 on with Goblincon ramping up and all that. So we'll see. If not, the Kentucky book will be out in October
 
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 or something. Well October for sure. Love it. Amy. Yes. Do you want to do the 60-second speed room?
 
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 Sure. Do you have it? Yeah. It's right here in front of me. We are going to give you 60 minutes
 
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 to answer questions. Oh, a second. It's just a whole another hour. Well, remember, it takes five
 
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 minutes to take a picture with me. So you got to sit there. So we're going to get 60 minutes.
 
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 Well, you can really think about the questions. No, it's 60 seconds. Okay. You're going to cut us
 
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 down on speed, Dawn. Just go. You ready to go? All right. Let's go. Yeah. How tall are you? Let's just do it.
 
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 Six foot favorite ice cream. Butter Pecan. Dog kisses on the mouth. Yes or no?
 
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 No tongue, but I kiss them on the smooth. No dogs or cats? Dogs. Yeah. Books.
 
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 Books. First job. As a buster dishwasher. Text or call?
 
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  call. How long does it take to get you to get ready in the morning?
 
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 About five minutes. What was your worst subject in school? The worst? Probably math because I hated it.
 
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 I was good at it, but I hated it. Fair enough. Okay. You find a hair in your food? Are you going to
 
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 send it back? Yes. What's your favorite season? Spring. Name one of the seven dwarfs.
 
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 Sneezie. I like that one. Favorite movie genre? Yeah. Horror. Go to junk food.
 
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 That's a hard one. i donr do junk food anymore. Probably potato chips. Yeah, me. Are you typically on time?
 
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 Yeah. I'm always early. What city would you like to visit? I want to go back to St. Augustine,
 
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 but a new city Washington, DC. I want to go to Smithsonian. That'd be cool. Museums. And what's
 
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 something that you've done nice for yourself recently? That's a hard one because I do so much for my
 
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 business and everybody else. I always help everybody. Yeah. Oh, I went through and got a big
 
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 giant flavor coffee. Good for you. Just for me, I splurged the eight dollars and we have a place
 
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 called Jango Java out here, but their coffee's there are 32 ounce coffees. When I say eight dollar coffee,
 
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 it's 32 ounces of flavor coffee and they do sugar free. I'm just glad it had  flavoring
 
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 if I can talk. It's always black. Yes. I like black ice coffee. I did. I'm fixing to treat myself to a
 
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 pedicure. Yeah. I need one. You will have earned that for sure. There were definitely another one
 
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 after Goblincon because last year I walked 20 miles in two days within the  community.
 
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 As they think, coordinated running around. Yeah. You'll need one after. Yeah. Yeah.
 
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 Get them legs rubbed down and feet. Yep. And smooth. Oh, I know. Oh, I always go in. I go in and ask for
 
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 the I went to a little old granny lady because she's the roughest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
 
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 Oh, yeah. She's good massage. Yeah. She's like, don't be don't be gentle. I got man feet and men legs.
 
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 We got these little you know, the shots who's beating the shadow me in the back. Why don't you get my legs?
 
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 Right. Yeah. People that get massages and stuff where they fall asleep. Oh, I do. Yeah. You do.
 
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 I want a whole body massage. I'm out. I want to like hurt. No. Yeah. No, they're they're
 
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 gonna elbow my back. No, no, it's I'm still asleep. Oh, yeah. You ever see him sleep, though.
 
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 When he gets tired enough and he sits down, it's done. Yeah. Yeah, but I'll be going for like 18 hours.
 
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 Yeah. When you when you knock out, it's done. It's done. My brain turns off. I'm out because the
 
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 we were doing a live stream couple months ago. It was just me and Amy Shannon at The Knight House,
 
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 And I got it was like, I don't know what two or three in the morning. It was late. It was
 
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 late late. And I had been since like four or five. Oh, and so I was like going on 18, 19 hours at
 
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 least. And I sat down in a comfortable chair in the master bedroom and I was, that was all
 
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  Amy's like, all right, where I guess it's time to get a bed. It's done. I was like, get up and go
 
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 to sleep. Yeah. Yeah. The night that I was there, Roger went to bed at like 10, but he gets up super
 
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 early, huh? Yeah. For work, he's up at 4 30 every morning. Oh, yeah. No.
 
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 Even Jake is going night night. Yeah. The other night, Jake, we got the bed with him.
 
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 He was refusing even when Amy came in there and usually, you know, that's Amy's dog. He's
 
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 that's her child and he's refusing her, but he was comfortable. I had to pick him up off of Rodger.
 
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 He was so tired. I've almost said, y'all got him till in the morning. I'll come get him in the morning.
 
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 He'd just sleep anyways. Yeah. Oh, they love each other. He does love his uncles.
 
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 Rodger's the dog whisper anyway. I've never seen a dog you didn't love Rodger. They're always all
 
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 over him. Yeah, everybody's all friends. And we have seven dogs, so they may have something to do with it.
 
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 Yeah, right. But if people want to do tours or investigate or anything at The Knight House,
 
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 where do they do that? It is Theknighthouseky.com and night is spelled KNIGHT.
 
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 But theknighthouseky.com and GoblinCon to buy tickets, VIP passes, all that good stuff and have all
 
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 the info, it is goblinconky.com. And then what about social? You're I only do Facebook. So you
 
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 can find everything you see on Facebook, the Unseen Paranormal Podcast, which is still out there,
 
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 170 episodes of that show and everything I do is under every Eric Freeman Sims or Theknighthouse.com there.
 
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 And GoblinCon, they have a Facebook page. And GoblinCon, we have a Facebook page. Yeah, they,
 
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 that's me, darling. I do all the things. Where's no they? It's all me. I do all the websites and all the
 
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 things. Any visuals you see, that's all me. That is me. That is me. What is your page for Goblin?
 
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 Yeah, it's me. Yeah. Yeah. So you can find all the and the links to both of the websites are on
 
 395
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 The Knight House and GoblinCon Facebook pages too. Well, and if you google GoblinCon or The Knight House,
 
 396
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 they're the first five pages on Google. So it's in the way you can miss it. I mean, it's, you know,
 
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 yeah, Eric get that SEO going. Oh, I'm an  SEO expert. I'm telling you, I've learned about
 
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 your rules. Yeah, I'm optimizing that stuff. Yeah. The unseen paranormal podcast the same way. Oh, yeah.
 
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 Yeah. But yeah, if you google me, I'm like, I think I'm, my name's the first 10 pages on Google. So
 
 400
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 because all the podcasts have been on in my podcast. That's easy to find them, y'all. Yeah.
 
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 Get in there and come see GoblinCon. It's the weekend of August 22nd.
 
 402
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 Worth the drive. That's right. Well, thanks. This was fun. Yeah. Thank you for having me.
 
 403
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 Absolutely. And we're going to have to do it again because we've got some plans like we've been
 
 404
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 talking and I definitely like I'd like to do a couple other ones with you for sure.
 
 405
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 Well, yeah, I mean, my pilot cleanser from the paranormal is true crime. So I'm a huge
 
 406
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 true crime buff too. So yeah, definitely come talk gruesome with y'all. Yeah, you're going to
 
 407
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 be seeing more of him because we definitely have to have a paranormal one and then we'll do
 
 408
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 whatever true crime ones you want to cover. Yeah, you pick it. I've got some good ones.
 
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 Yeah. Not necessarily mainstream. I think people would enjoy. No, heck yeah. Well, yeah, we try to do
 
 410
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 smaller stories that don't get all the attention for sure. Yeah. So yeah, we're, that's great for us.
 
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 Yay. Awesome. Well, we will meet back here in two weeks. Probably not with Eric because he'll be busy
 
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 planning and executing Goblincon. But Amy and I will be back in two weeks. So we'll see you then.
 
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 Thank you and bye. Bye.
 
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 Thanks for making it to the end and hanging out with us. Keep on the lookout for our next episode and
 
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 stay gruesome.
 
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